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    Re: Fort Hood shooting: Nidal Malik Hasan 'said Muslims should rise up'

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    I truly believe the media and the government will do anything to keep this from being about what it was. Islam.
    Islam is part of the equation, but what it is about is a nutter who viewed Islam in an extremist light, and who saw himself bound (by dint of extremist thought exacerbated by mental illness) to act.

    This guy followed what Islam requires of him.
    Islam does not require it. Only Extremist Muslims say it is a requirement to kill Americans in general. The Koran says it is required when Islam itself is under attack, and many Muslims do not believe this. A Poll of Muslims in ME countries showed 75% did not think suicide bombing or violence against civilians to defend Islam against it's enemies was justified.
    He wasn't crazy
    He was mentally unstable according to his fellow mental health workers at Walter Reed.
    He was a fundamentalist Islamic believer.
    O.K. so what? So are thousands of Americans. They're not going round killing people.

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    Re: Fort Hood shooting: Nidal Malik Hasan 'said Muslims should rise up'

    Quote Originally Posted by tjinta ibis View Post
    O.K. so what?
    it appears hasan's extremist, violent political views should have been addressed by his employers

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    Re: Fort Hood shooting: Nidal Malik Hasan 'said Muslims should rise up'

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    Your narrative explains why Hasan acted. Your narrative doesn't explain why the Army failed to remove him after it was discovered he repeatedly expressed extremist views inimical to the organization of which he was a part. Nor does your narrative explain why was selected to attend Homeland Security conferences last year and early this year. We will never win a conflict when we can't bring ourselves to express the name of our enemy.

    The guy had Sudden Jihad Syndrome. Hindus, Sikhs, Jains, Jews, Christians, Animists, Atheists and Agnostics don't suffer from this malady. What are the causes of Sudden Jihad Syndrome?
    So deport all Muslims right?

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    Re: Fort Hood shooting: Nidal Malik Hasan 'said Muslims should rise up'

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    it appears hasan's extremist, violent political views should have been addressed by his employers
    I agree. However my comment was to the statement that he was a Fundamental Islam believer. There is nothing wrong with being a fundamentalist anything, unless in the belief system there is a call to break the law.

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    Re: Fort Hood shooting: Nidal Malik Hasan 'said Muslims should rise up'

    of course, thank you

    but if he were a skinhead, for instance, with such hateful mind and mouth...

    somehow, i belive his commanders would have taken more aggressive action

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    Re: Fort Hood shooting: Nidal Malik Hasan 'said Muslims should rise up'

    Quote Originally Posted by tjinta ibis View Post
    O.K. so what? So are thousands of Americans. They're not going round killing people.

    They're not going around killing people...yet.


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    Re: Fort Hood shooting: Nidal Malik Hasan 'said Muslims should rise up'

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Anyone still want to argue that this wasn't religiously motivated and that he wasn't a jihadist?
    Whats the benefit from knowing that ?
    I am pretty sure that he wasn't getting a good treatment from all because of his religion, but still not an urge at all to kill anyone . Motivated or not, no one will take by his words of course, not after what he did .

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    Re: Fort Hood shooting: Nidal Malik Hasan 'said Muslims should rise up'

    Quote Originally Posted by tjinta ibis View Post
    So are thousands of Americans. They're not going round killing people.
    Muslims want to be fully embraced by Americans despite the baggage that comes with Muslims in general.

    Millions of Americans think the baggage is too great to abide.

    With greater numbers of Muslim comes a greater frequency of Islamic violence.

    OBL 11/24/02

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    Re: Fort Hood shooting: Nidal Malik Hasan 'said Muslims should rise up'

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahmed Shaheen View Post
    Whats the benefit from knowing that ?
    I am pretty sure that he wasn't getting a good treatment from all because of his religion, but still not an urge at all to kill anyone . Motivated or not, no one will take by his words of course, not after what he did .
    Shaheen says Hasan was not a jihadist. I heard Sharpton said Jackson wasn't racist.
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    Re: Fort Hood shooting: Nidal Malik Hasan 'said Muslims should rise up'

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Shaheen says Hasan was not a jihadist.
    Depends on how do you translate "Jihad".
    Last edited by Ahmed Shaheen; 11-08-09 at 07:18 PM.

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