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    Re: Fort Hood shooting: Nidal Malik Hasan 'said Muslims should rise up'

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    Re: Fort Hood shooting: Nidal Malik Hasan 'said Muslims should rise up'

    But the investigators, working with behavioral experts, suggested that he might have long suffered from emotional problems that were exacerbated by the tensions of his work with veterans of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan who returned home with serious psychiatric problems.

    They said his counseling activities with the veterans appear to have further fueled his anger and hardened his increasingly militant views as he was seeming to move toward more extreme religious beliefs — all of which boiled over as he faced being shipped overseas, an assignment he bitterly opposed
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    So far my theory that he was mentally disturbed first, then due to this went down that slippery slope that exacerbated his belief system, is holding out. There are plenty of American muslims who are angry about our occupations of muslim lands, but they aren't killing Americans because of it. This guy was disturbed, a religious fanatic, and surrounded by people who were involved in doing what he saw as a crusade against his religion. A very dangerous combination.
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    Re: Fort Hood shooting: Nidal Malik Hasan 'said Muslims should rise up'

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    Or a British citizen whose nearby neighborhood is now ruled over by Shariah law.
    Which British neighborhood is ruled over by Shariah law?
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    Re: Fort Hood shooting: Nidal Malik Hasan 'said Muslims should rise up'

    I truly believe the media and the government will do anything to keep this from being about what it was. Islam.

    The biggest lie the media have is when they call these terrorists part of "radical Islam" WRONG. Its fundamentalist Islam, a huge difference. This guy followed what Islam requires of him. He wasn't crazy or part of a "radical Islam" He was a fundamentalist Islamic believer.

    The biggest coverup is not calling these terrorists what they are. Literal believers in Islam. Nothing radical or crazy, simply literal believers. Islam excuses attacking and in many cases requiring Muslims to attack unbelievers and he believed in their words. It is the almost endless justification in Islam to attack those who are non Muslims and those who are at war with some Muslims that make people like this find justification in these attacks.
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    Re: Fort Hood shooting: Nidal Malik Hasan 'said Muslims should rise up'

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Which British neighborhood is ruled over by Shariah law?
    They have been around for a while

    Today we learned that sharia courts (which have operated illegally in Britain until now) are being re-classed as tribunal hearings, making their judgments legally binding. According to the Daily Express, “new powers have been given to tribunals in London, Birmingham, Bradford and Manchester with the network’s headquarters in Nuneaton, Warwickshire. Two more courts are being planned for Glasgow and Edinburgh.” According to the Daily Mail, this “[…] new network of courts […] agree[s] to be bound by traditional sharia law, and under the 1996 Arbitration Act the court's decisions can then be enforced by the county courts or the High Court.”

    From Magna Carta to Sharia Law ? Britain?s Decline | The Brussels Journal
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    Re: Fort Hood shooting: Nidal Malik Hasan 'said Muslims should rise up'

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    They have been around for a while

    Today we learned that sharia courts (which have operated illegally in Britain until now) are being re-classed as tribunal hearings, making their judgments legally binding. According to the Daily Express, “new powers have been given to tribunals in London, Birmingham, Bradford and Manchester with the network’s headquarters in Nuneaton, Warwickshire. Two more courts are being planned for Glasgow and Edinburgh.” According to the Daily Mail, this “[…] new network of courts […] agree[s] to be bound by traditional sharia law, and under the 1996 Arbitration Act the court's decisions can then be enforced by the county courts or the High Court.”

    From Magna Carta to Sharia Law ? Britain?s Decline | The Brussels Journal
    From your conservative source :

    The establishment of sharia law in Britain, even on a minor scale, not only undermines British law and culture of equality ‘under the law,’ with cases judged by a jury of one’s peers, but is implicitly menacing to people of all non-Muslim religions, atheists, conservatives, women, homosexuals, and people of all racial and ethnic backgrounds.
    What is actually happening :

    ISLAMIC law has been officially adopted in Britain, with sharia courts given powers to rule on Muslim civil cases.

    The government has quietly sanctioned the powers for sharia judges to rule on cases ranging from divorce and financial disputes to those involving domestic violence.

    Rulings issued by a network of five sharia courts are enforceable with the full power of the judicial system, through the county courts or High Court.
    Under the act, the sharia courts are classified as arbitration tribunals. The rulings of arbitration tribunals are binding in law, provided that both parties in the dispute agree to give it the power to rule on their case.
    In other words, these courts only have power if you decide to go to them. How this equates to Sharia law running the neighborhoods of British citizens is beyond me. Hyperbolic much?
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    Re: Fort Hood shooting: Nidal Malik Hasan 'said Muslims should rise up'

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Anyone still want to argue that this wasn't religiously motivated and that he wasn't a jihadist?
    The detectives said this was not a terrorist act.

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    Re: Fort Hood shooting: Nidal Malik Hasan 'said Muslims should rise up'

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    In other words, these courts only have power if you decide to go to them. How this equates to Sharia law running the neighborhoods of British citizens is beyond me. Hyperbolic much?
    Yeah, there are some neighborhoods the police can't go into unless they are welcomed (haha) or heavily armed. Check ALL sources, liberal and conservative. These neighborhoods exist, and guess who lives there. It's not the English Defense League, brother.

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    Re: Fort Hood shooting: Nidal Malik Hasan 'said Muslims should rise up'

    Quote Originally Posted by windovervocalcords View Post
    The detectives said this was not a terrorist act.
    I'm not afraid, so even if it was a terrorist act, it failed as far as the Epic Dude is concerned.

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    Re: Fort Hood shooting: Nidal Malik Hasan 'said Muslims should rise up'

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    I'm not afraid, so even if it was a terrorist act, it failed as far as the Epic Dude is concerned.
    What would a success have been in your estimation?

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