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    Re: Poland calls for more US troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Elena View Post
    And EU took Poland and the rest of European donkeys into the Union precisely to minimise the US influence on them and keep the way to Russia open.
    Not at all, they joined to align themselves further with the West and distance themselves from the Russians, aswell as isolating the Eastern European countries who looked towards the Kremlin. They joined because they believed the EU could offer them the economic benefits they so desperately needed. Did the UK join the EU to run away from US influence? Yeah right, hardly. Poland has shown in recent months that it needs NATO and the US to protect it from Russia whereas the EU cannot, it is merely a market agreement thus far and has no legitimate military foundation. The British hardly joined to run away from the US so this statement is largely unfounded.

    As you can see, the times of "Western interests" as euphemism for US interests are gone. There are interests of the US, and there are interests of Europe, and they are often at odds.
    When does the "European interests" euphenism go? This is the problem with the EU pupper masters. There is no European interest. There is a British interest, a German interest, so on so fourth. And, when it comes to Russia, we tend to meet with the Americans.

    Sorry to break the news, but military exercises (including the ones on the borders with other states, are nothing special. Few months ago the US conducted such exercises on Russian/Georgian border. What is good for the Goose, good for the Gander.
    Yes, but shortly after the Americans announce they do not want to put the shields in Poland? Its all to coincidential. And its pretty obvious the military excercise happened at Polands boarders for political reasons, just like NATO's little excercise in Georgia (and it was not carried out beside the Russian boarder).
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    Re: Poland calls for more US troops

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    1. The 5 day war was evidence that Russia still has the ability to assert its influence by force.

    2. President for Life Vladimir Putin and puppet Medvedev,

    3. and their obvious intentions to intimidate neighbours

    4. Obama done an injustice to the concerned people of Poland and i can only say sorry to them.
    1. What the problem, Russia didn't let Georgia to exterminate Ossetians?

    2. Both of them enjoy respect and love of the absolute majority of the citizens of Russia. Isn't it what democracy is about: to have the leaders the absolute majority voted for?

    3. Which ones? Poland? The reason it screams so loud is because it knows everyone has lost interest in it.

    4. Don't. Poles were oposed to it. It was needed by the political elite of Poland, and I did advise you not to mistaken interests of political elites for the interests of the people.
    "Fifty-three percent of the Polish respondents to a recent CBOS survey are against plans to install elements of a U.S. anti-missile shield in Poland." Poll shows 53% Poles against anti-missile shield _Europe--China Economic Net

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    Re: Poland calls for more US troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Elena View Post
    1. What the problem, Russia didn't let Georgia to exterminate Ossetians?
    Russia provoked an attack. You should read the UN report.

    2. Both of them enjoy respect and love of the absolute majority of the citizens of Russia. Isn't it what democracy is about: to have the leaders the absolute majority voted for?
    So does most leaders, Hitler had a love for Germany who loved him back. Does that justify anything or define a Democracy? Its pretty obvious Vladimir is the puppet master. He undertakes national duties that is not supposed to be undertaken by the President and he has a large influence and say over what Medvedev does and says. Also, he ammended the constitution which will allow him to run for the Prime ministry again. Convienient - also, dont forget the recent electoral frauds which prompted a Kremlin walkout...which is unusual since the parties usually fear Putin. Sounds like a great Democracy!

    3. Which ones? Poland? The reason it screams so loud is because it knows everyone has lost interest in it.
    Obama done an injustice to the Polish people. This is not to say we have no interest in Poland.

    4. Don't. Poles were oposed to it. It was needed by the political elite of Poland, and I did advise you not to mistaken interests of political elites for the interests of the people.
    "Fifty-three percent of the Polish respondents to a recent CBOS survey are against plans to install elements of a U.S. anti-missile shield in Poland." Poll shows 53% Poles against anti-missile shield _Europe--China Economic Net
    China Economic Net? Do i have to question the legitemacy of this source?
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    Re: Poland calls for more US troops

    We forgot about Poland.




    http://forgotaboutpoland.ytmnd.com/
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    Re: Poland calls for more US troops

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post

    1. Not at all, they joined

    2. They joined because they believed the EU could offer them the economic benefits they so desperately needed.

    3. Did the UK join the EU to run away from US influence?

    4. Poland has shown in recent months that it needs NATO and the US to protect it from Russia

    5. When does the "European interests" euphenism go?

    This is the problem with the EU pupper masters. There is no European interest. There is a British interest, a German interest, so on so fourth. And, when it comes to Russia, we tend to meet with the Americans.

    6. Yes, but shortly after the Americans announce they do not want to put the shields in Poland? Its all to coincidential.
    And its pretty obvious the military excercise happened at Polands boarders for political reasons, just like NATO's little excercise in Georgia (and it was not carried out beside the Russian boarder).
    1. You can't join unless you are TAKEN IN. And that's what happened to Poland and Baltic states: they were taken in in a big hurry!

    2. It reminds me of an anekdot: an old lady of about a 100 suddenly starts screaming "He wants to rape me!!! He wants to rape me!!!" Her grandson runs into the room: "Grandma, calm down! No one wants to rape you." She looks sadly at him and says with a sight: "Can I at least dream about it?"

    3. What does UK have to do with mainland Europe?

    4. See 2

    5. European interests is euphemism for the interests of mainly Germany and France since they are the main driving force behind the EU. Again, nothing to do with UK. Right now UK is a 51-st US state. And while UK can't see where the US ends and UK begins, Europeans are increasingly working with Russia.

    6. Every military exercise is held for political reasons as well as for reasons of training the military. What is the problem?

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    Re: Poland calls for more US troops

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    1. Russia provoked an attack. You should read the UN report.

    2. So does most leaders, Hitler had a love for Germany who loved him back. Does that justify anything or define a Democracy? Its pretty obvious Vladimir is the puppet master. He undertakes national duties that is not supposed to be undertaken by the President and he has a large influence and say over what Medvedev does and says. Also, he ammended the constitution which will allow him to run for the Prime ministry again. Convienient - also, dont forget the recent electoral frauds which prompted a Kremlin walkout...which is unusual since the parties usually fear Putin. Sounds like a great Democracy!

    3. Obama done an injustice to the Polish people. This is not to say we have no interest in Poland.

    4. China Economic Net? Do i have to question the legitemacy of this source?
    1. I think its you who should read the report. And in any case, just how did Russia provoke genocide of Ossetians by Georgia? Please, explain yourself.

    2. Sorry, you lost me in all the slogans you piled up there. Can you please explain your thought in your own words?

    3. Most Poles were against it. Why do you think the wishes of political elite should take precedence over the wishes of the people?

    4. Why? Because it doesn't support the US propaganda?

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    Re: Poland calls for more US troops

    Why do you talk of the US somehow betraying Poland to Russian threat, if according to the US official testimony the missile shield was NOT directed against Russia?????

    Was the US economic with truth? Again?

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    Re: Poland calls for more US troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Elena View Post
    Why do you talk of the US somehow betraying Poland to Russian threat, if according to the US official testimony the missile shield was NOT directed against Russia?????

    Was the US economic with truth? Again?
    How does one 'aim' a defensive tool?

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    Re: Poland calls for more US troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Elena View Post
    Why do you talk of the US somehow betraying Poland to Russian threat, if according to the US official testimony the missile shield was NOT directed against Russia?????

    Was the US economic with truth? Again?
    Positioned for multiple threats.
    Does everything have to be spelled out for the kids or is there room for doing things with diplomatic panache?

    It's wiseacres like you who on one hand said "W" is stupid, and on the other do not understand strategic decisions like... the shield, and corralling the idiot terrorists in Iraq.

    Of course, you just might believe wars can be won on the defensive and peace achieved through weakness.

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    Re: Poland calls for more US troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Elena View Post
    Long it remain undemocratic!

    As for the rest, never mistaken interests of kept elites for that of the people of the countries. And time of the US expansion into Russia's European backyard without Russia's consent is pretty much over.
    Hello?

    Poland ain't "russia's backyard".

    Poland it Poland, a sovereign nation as equally free to enter into treaties with any nation it finds an interest in dealing with.

    Russia has no authority over what Poland does, and it's past time Russia give up it's dream of empire.

    The Messiah did a completely evil thing by abandoning Poland, and that may become a pivotal event of 21st Century history.

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