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12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

bhkad said:
Certainly it raises a red flag. Islam is unlike Catholicism or LDS.
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Islam is of higher concern for national security, but it's totally unethical to use ones position as a healthcare profession to proselytize to patients. He should have been censured by professional organization.
 
MyOwnDrum said:
It's totally unprofessional for a doctor or nurse to proselytize a patient under their care.
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Sure, even here, one might lose his job for something like that.
 
MyOwnDrum said:
Islam is of higher concern for national security, but it's totally unethical to use ones position as a healthcare profession to proselytize to patients. He should have been censured by professional organization.
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There are a number of reasons why he may not have been. Reluctance to permanently ding an officer's career or a doctor's record. The Army wants ethnic and religious diversity in it's ranks. A need for medical professionals. Ignorance of Islam leading to Political Correctness.
 
bhkad said:
There are a number of reasons why he may not have been. Reluctance to permanently ding an officer's career or a doctor's record. The Army wants ethnic and religious diversity in it's ranks. A need for medical professionals. Ignorance of Islam leading to Political Correctness.
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Reluctance to permanently ding an officer's career or a doctor's record. If they were that concerned they should have put Tort Reform in the Health car bill.

ZiNG!
 
This was a terrorist act straight up. I actually thought the stories coming out about how he was picked on and had PTSD and other problems that lead him to snap were a joke. Crazies like Dr, Phill and other wackos need to have some sense slapped into them. This terrorist had never been in combat or a combat zone and you can't catch PTSD by osmosis. I wonder why he is alive. There no chance in hell that I would lift a finger to help the bastard until everyone else was taken care of. Even than I would be in no great hurry.

This Muslim should have been dishonorably discharged when he talked about Islam and said “If one suicide bomber can kill 100 enemy soldiers because they were caught off guard that would be considered a strategic victory,”
Read the whole story. And if you are one of the those (Expletive deleted) who feel he was a victim chances are you're a sick (Expletive deleted) puppy.

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2009/11/feds-eyed-ft-hood-killer-for-posts-praising-suicide-bombers/
 
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Hasan's coworkers saw warning signs, but said nothing for fear of seeming bigoted.

His fellow students complained to the faculty about Hasan's "anti-American propaganda," but said a fear of appearing discriminatory against a Muslim student kept officers from filing a formal written complaint.
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Some saw warning signs ahead of US Army shooting - Israel News, Ynetnews

So this is what it has come to. This is the fruit of the long-term efforts by groups such as the Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR), to stigmatize and demonize everyone who speaks honestly about the threat of jihad and Islamic supremacism. People are afraid to speak up about what they see, when they know it is wrong.

Our multicuturalism and political corectness will be the end of us. If you see or here something please report it. Do not be concerned with being labled an islamophobe. They are counting on you being afraid to speak out.
 
The Marxist's Secret Weapon of Subversion, aka Political Correctness, will see us all destroyed before the Marxists can even take over!!! Throw out Political Correctness, throw out those who talk **** about America. It used to be OK to exercise your 1st amendment by ironically dissing and ****ting on your country, but the times they are a changin' and are getting to be serious business. Frankly there is no time for *****footing around the truth. Bad people want us dead. REAL dead. And we want to live, so **** them and whatever crazed religion/ideology they followed AND the horse they rode in on.

Ideally, I'd have us show down with our enemies on the OUTSIDE of the gates, but if the Politically Correct would have them INSIDE, I know which hippies I'm using as meat shields first....


>:C
 
I bet there are 35 Libbos lawyers standing in line to defend this cat and keep him off of death row.
 
As soon as this guy gets out of hospital? They should kill him by firing squad:(
 
Kali said:
As soon as this guy gets out of hospital? They should kill him by firing squad:(
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Somehow, I don't believe you're sincere. Just saying.
 
Kali said:
As soon as this guy gets out of hospital? They should kill him by firing squad:(
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It'd be too easy...Cowards and honorless traitors deserve nothing but a slow, painful death. A reminder of the ongoing pain and betrayal that they have caused. Shoot him in the stomach with a 22 and leave him as a reminder of what happens when you **** with America.
 
EpicDude86 said:
It'd be too easy...Cowards and honorless traitors deserve nothing but a slow, painful death. A reminder of the ongoing pain and betrayal that they have caused. Shoot him in the stomach with a 22 and leave him as a reminder of what happens when you **** with America.
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Blah, blah, blah. You men and your torture fetishes. :roll:
 
Lerxst said:
Why?






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Probably something to do with the patient not necessarily being the same religion as said doctor, or the Doctor using a position or power or authority over the patient to increase influence. If it's not a professional opinion relating to the patient's case or a related anecdote or something, I can see where it would be a little out of line for a Doctor to just go professing Islam to them.

That's just my opinion.
 
apdst said:
I bet there are 35 Libbos lawyers standing in line to defend this cat and keep him off of death row.
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I bet there are lawyers with the state's capital defense team waiting to defend him. It's their job. Most if not all states have a capital defense division within the public defenders office whose job it is defend anyone facing capital punishment.

It has nothing to do with his religion and everything to do with capital punishment.
 
1069 said:
Blah, blah, blah. You men and your torture fetishes. :roll:
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What's crazy is that he'd rather just get a firing squad and remove him of a right to a fair trial... amazing how eager we are to remove someone's rights. As soon as you allow exwmptions for rights, it's only a matter of time before EVERYONE is exempt.
 
BmanMcfly said:
What's crazy is that he'd rather just get a firing squad and remove him of a right to a fair trial... amazing how eager we are to remove someone's rights. As soon as you allow exwmptions for rights, it's only a matter of time before EVERYONE is exempt.
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I said cowards and Honorless traitors, and he'd have to go to court to be convicted. Thanks for reading between the lines McFly. You still upset about that Patriot Act thing? You're the one that said the "constitution" with a lower case c was like toilet paper.

Oh here it is.
BmanMcfly said:
now it's written with a small c like you would spell 'toilet paper' because that's how it's been treated lately.
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EpicDude86 said:
Probably something to do with the patient not necessarily being the same religion as said doctor, or the Doctor using a position or power or authority over the patient to increase influence. If it's not a professional opinion relating to the patient's case or a related anecdote or something, I can see where it would be a little out of line for a Doctor to just go professing Islam to them.

That's just my opinion.
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Well I can see where you are coming from, I don't know if it's completely unprofessional so much as it is probably a turn off for the patients. For patients who are religious and appreciate that kind of thing I would bet they consider it completely fine. For other they could be very offended. And some just totally indifferent.

I certainly don't go to my doctor for religious advice. But it's not unlike my current doctor engaging me in political discussion when I go in. He knows the line of work I'm in and seems to think it's okay to spend an extra 20 minutes griping about Congress and the President. He's a good guy so I don't sweat it too much but it does get old.
 
Lerxst said:
Well I can see where you are coming from, I don't know if it's completely unprofessional so much as it is probably a turn off for the patients. For patients who are religious and appreciate that kind of thing I would bet they consider it completely fine. For other they could be very offended. And some just totally indifferent.

I certainly don't go to my doctor for religious advice. But it's not unlike my current doctor engaging me in political discussion when I go in. He knows the line of work I'm in and seems to think it's okay to spend an extra 20 minutes griping about Congress and the President. He's a good guy so I don't sweat it too much but it does get old.
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I agree, though what you said about being a "Turn off" for patients seems like that would be a good point to draw the line. If you can't be comfortable with your Doctor, that could adversely affect your treatment.
 
EpicDude86 said:
It'd be too easy...Cowards and honorless traitors deserve nothing but a slow, painful death. A reminder of the ongoing pain and betrayal that they have caused. Shoot him in the stomach with a 22 and leave him as a reminder of what happens when you **** with America.
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I say death by firing squad and rid this Earth from him. He is a disgrace to the service and a disgrace to the human race.
 
EpicDude86 said:
I agree, though what you said about being a "Turn off" for patients seems like that would be a good point to draw the line. If you can't be comfortable with your Doctor, that could adversely affect your treatment.
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I would assume you could request a different doctor, if that were the case, and you had a legitimate reason.
I would assume, actually- although perhaps I'm assuming too much- that soldiers suffering from PTSD because of being in combat with Islamics in the middle east might be uncomfortable, on general principles, being treated by an Islamic doctor of middle-eastern heritage.
Sort of like rape victims sometimes feel uncomfortable with male doctors and request female ones.

But again, maybe i'm making too many assumptions.
i don't know what they go through or how they feel.
 
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EpicDude86 said:
I said cowards and Honorless traitors, and he'd have to go to court to be convicted. Thanks for reading between the lines McFly. You still upset about that Patriot Act thing? You're the one that said the "constitution" with a lower case c was like toilet paper.
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Well, first off...the way you wrote your post was to have a firing line waiting for him to walk out the hospital doors.

Second, I said it's being treated as though it's spelled with a small c... as in toilet paper. Bush's infamous line was 'a goddamned piece of paper'...

Why would you be SUPPORTING of the patriot act ANYWAY, if you support the constitution?? Several judges had found it to be unconstitutional... sections of it at least. Not to mention my main grievance which is that they are no longer 'criminals' but rather 'domestic terrorists' if their crime 'endangers human life' and / or is aimed at coersion, political influence, etc...
 
1069 said:
I would assume you could request a different doctor, if that were the case, and you had a legitimate reason.
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You get the doc that you get, in the service.

But again, maybe i'm making too many assumptions.
i don't know what they go through or how they feel.
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Yes, you're making too many assumptions. Until this past Thursday, requesting a new shrink, because your shrink is a Muslim/Arab/Mid-Eastern person would be considered descrimination, in the military and therefore wouldn't be tolerated.
 
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