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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    When things seem how of control and when we are faced with this kind of violence is precisely the time to cling most tenaciously to the rule of law. You think it's bad now? If we sink to the criminal's level, then it will get infinitely worse.
    I wonder, if it were 'Crazy Radical Christians' would everyone be so eager to make peace? I think people are genuinely afraid of Islam and/or the backlash that comes with standing up to the wacko Mulsims.

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    Wow.

    You sure swallowed the crazy Imams' rhetoric hook, line and sinker, didn't you?
    which crazy Imams are you speaking of, there are so many to choose from.
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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    Wow.

    You sure swallowed the crazy Imams' rhetoric hook, line and sinker, didn't you?
    I swallowed nothing. I came to my conclussions after many years of research, thankyou.
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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    Well....Better safe and 'crazy' than accepting and dead
    My point is most Muslims have moved past that crazy stuff a long time ago. If they hadn't, then we would be really ****ed. We're not. We're just wallowing in irrational paranoia. I don't walk down the street fearing that every man I meet is going to rape and kill me, even though the chances of that happening are greater than being blown up by a terrorist.
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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    My point is most Muslims have moved past that crazy stuff a long time ago. If they hadn't, then we would be really ****ed. We're not. We're just wallowing in irrational paranoia. I don't walk down the street fearing that every man I meet is going to rape and kill me, even though the chances of that happening are greater than being blown up by a terrorist.
    We are really ****ed get used to it. Why do you suppose so called "good muslims" are not in the streets protesting when those who have hijacked there so called "peacefull religion" commit acts of violent jihad? They seem to come out of the woodwork in protest whem some artist draws a picture of Muhammad.
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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    Now, I've never been in the millitary, so do correct me if I'm wrong. Now, it's my understanding that as you gain rank you are tested in ways that would weed out those that have 'anti-war' tendencies... right?? Now, was this his first deployment? Again, unless I'm mistaken, the millitary is not releasing his records... why would that be?
    I've read the information about his wild eyed rants in which he shouted that non-believers should be beheaded and have boiling oil poured down their throats. I'm going to wait an make sure this isn't the media taking license with someone's statements about a person that a lot of people don't really like too much right now.

    I can't imagine an instance where an officer would go on an hour long rant about beheading infidels and pouring oil down their throats or making repeated anti-American rants and the military not stepping in and taking some kind of action. Not in post-9/11 America. I question the truthfulness of the those making the claims. A whole group of professional military officers all cowed by "political correctness" refuse to report a wild eyed Muslim nutjob among their ranks? Bull****. I don't buy it. I spent many years in the military pre and post 9/11. That crap doesn't go down like that. What I think is happening here is he was a quirky asshole but not to the degree that anyone would feel the need to take action against. Who knows how that "lecture" actually went down? The guy may have been reading verses from the Quran, not making literal statements, but now everyone remembers what a psycho extremist he was years later...but not extremist enough to do anything about back then. Right. From years and years of investigating homicide and other notable crimes I have found that peoples memories take a neat turn when something major like this happens and folks start asking questions.

    It's issues like this that raise the question, in my mind, if this guy might have been a vitim of 'mk-ultra' mind control experiments... I mean, it's been reported that he's going around telling people of his beliefs, that he is anti-war and about to be deployed... I don't know the extent of control over a person can be obtained with the processes developed in those experiments (since what has been declassified is mainly blacked out), but if he was programmed, and the effect wanted was to show a muslim extremist, he could be programmed to talk about such topics whenever possible, untill he is 'activated' and grabs his guns and accomplishes an objective without concern for his own well-being...
    I have no idea about this stuff. I've heard of it but I don't put too much stock into it still being practiced today.


    First, the 'coward' part... if his training showed him to be a coward, don't you think he would have been weeded out?? Anyway...
    This paragraph leads me to my prime suggestion that this guy was most likely a prozac head... you say he had reason to be depressed... now a psychiatrist has the ability to write prescriptions... was this man on SSRI's?? (prozac / ritalin)
    When I say coward I mean mentally. He couldn't deal with deploying. This guy wasn't going to see combat, he was a psychiatrist or something. I have no idea if he was using prescription meds and I'm not going to really inject that because it's too much of a speculation (meaning there is no mention that I've found in the media reports).

    If he was that says alot about what may have triggered this... IT"S ON THE INSERT for these drugs that they can create psychopathic episodes in 'rare' instances... you cannot just 'stop' taking these drugs, but must be weaned off.

    So, he might very well have had one of these episodes and just got his guns and started killing people...
    From the media reports what I've reasoned is that his mental state was compromised and he went on a killing spree. He was obviously very engrossed with his religion. Religion is a very powerful thing when decoupled from reason. This man's mental state could have led to his delusion that he was in fact doing Gods work. This sort of thing has played out in several murders throughout history. To say this is a problem with Islam (in this case) is inaccurate. It's a problem with mental illness. And short term mental illness brought about by severe depression, stress, and anxiety is not outside the realm of possibility.

    There's also the outside chance that he really was a muslim extremist....
    You are correct.
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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    I wonder, if it were 'Crazy Radical Christians' would everyone be so eager to make peace? I think people are genuinely afraid of Islam and/or the backlash that comes with standing up to the wacko Mulsims.
    No one is trying to make peace.

    I'm not afraid of Islam. I'm afraid of certain elements within Islam, but I refuse to walk around in constant fear. I have a life to live.
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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    I swallowed nothing. I came to my conclussions after many years of research, thankyou.
    No Muslim I've ever met thinks that terrorists are good Muslims and I've lived my entire life with them as neighbors, friends or coworkers.
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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Next on DP 20/20, John Stossel goes inside the mind of the criminally absurd.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    My point is most Muslims have moved past that crazy stuff a long time ago.


    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    My point is most Muslims have moved past that crazy stuff a long time ago.


    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    My point is most Muslims have moved past that crazy stuff a long time ago.


    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    My point is most Muslims have moved past that crazy stuff a long time ago.


    John Stossel is staring into your soul.
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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    Next on DP 20/20, John Stossel goes inside the mind of the criminally absurd.

















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