The dead victims had the right to pull out a weapon and take the man down... it's sad but they didn't have the chance. People get killed all the time no matter where you live, there is a need for justice. Not revenge.
Look, the point is that no matter how heinous the crime it does not justify eliminating the persons rights, because then you take the rights away from everyone.
I'm actively saying that we need to defend and strengthen the bounds of the constitution, rather then with bills like 'patriot act', the 'give act', TARP. the new health-care bill, etc... that have decidedly unconstitutional to anti-constitutional intention behind it.Doesn't mean you have to treat it like toilet paper, too.
Ok, then why didn't they call it a 'drug bill' then a 'counter-terrorism' bill... studying the times in which the patriot act is being used... it's only a fraction of the cases that are counter-terrorist. The rest have been used to elminate things like the right to privacy... since everyone can be legitimately wiretapped under patriot act (the section that was deemed unconstitutional)I'm not so much supporting the Patriot Act as I am trying to exorcise you of your ignorance. For all its flaws, it has some good legislation that can be properly utilized in a number of other ways besides just infringing upon your rights and privacy. For example, It has been used to make prosecuting drug trafficking cases easier.
Oddly enough, as an analogy, it's like say they passed a law that allowed cops to shoot criminals on sight. However, cops had not started shooting criminals on sight, and continued to arrest them normally... you could deny that the legislation or the potential exists because it's not been exercised... then suddenly one day a new batch of cops comes in trained under the new rules, and next thing you know you're sitting in a corner praying that no cops deems you a criminal.How many criminals have been arrested as Domestic Terrorists over acts that you think haven't been acts of Domestic Terrorism.
It's the same type of thing... right now the situation seems to be more along the lines of building legal precedences in order to justify massive policy shifts towards 'patriot act' compliant police training. Are you aware of the DHS reports?? I mean the ones that start to label different groups as 'extremist groups' (I mean horrendous criminals like : anti-war activists, pro-life groups, libertarians, etc their names listed with ACTUAL extremists like white-supremacist groups among others)?
It's a situation that is slowly but surely building up.... I mean, we already have boyscouts and girlscouts training with homeland security... can anyone say 'hitler youth'?? (remember, people laughed at the Hitler youth when they were 16-17... but then once they were 18-19 and trained to kill they were no laughing matter)