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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Are you suggesting that we kick all muslim and/or middle eastern Americans out of the military?
    Certainly you aren't suggesting that we round up all middle easter Americans and put then in internment camps until the so-called "War on Terror" is over.
    Are you?
    I say we kick all white soldiers out of the military since after all Timothy McVeigh was white.

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    violent message outside a New York mosque



    Yousef al-Khattab and Younes Abdullah Mohammed preach that the killing of U.S. troops overseas is justified. In their thinking, so were the September 11, 2001, attacks on the United States -- and so are attacks on almost any American.

    "Americans will always be a target "




    This directly contradicts the statement issued by CAIR yesterday.
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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

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    violent message outside a New York mosque
    Yousef al-Khattab and Younes Abdullah Mohammed preach that the killing of U.S. troops overseas is justified. In their thinking, so were the September 11, 2001, attacks on the United States -- and so are attacks on almost any American.

    "Americans will always be a target "

    This directly contradicts the statement issued by CAIR yesterday.
    Not sure what your point is. Are you saying that because these two idiots stand on a street corner and say stupid ****, that somehow delegitimizes what CAIR said?

    I also thought this article was hilarious for another reason:

    They hand out fliers outside the gleaming 96th Street mosque, where up to 4,000 people visit every day. Inside the sleek, modernistic house of worship, Imam Shamsi Ali preaches against the violence that now sweeps many Muslim countries.

    "What we try to do is reminding our people about the real Islam," Ali said. "We tell them what the real Islam is all about. Islam is about peace. Islam is about moderation. Islam is about friendship. Islam is opposed to any kind of hatred against anybody."

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    The mosque has called police on Al-Khattab and Mohammed several times, and passers-by occasionally engage them in heated debates. Ali told CNN that ordinary Muslims are "disgusted with their behavior."
    So there are 4,000 people who come each day to listen to a preacher who speaks out forcefully against violence while two assholes stand outside preaching hatred, and the article spends most of its time focusing on the two assholes.

    Good to see they've got a sense of perspective.
    People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    I think we'll find out soon enough that this guy fits into a profile of people who do this kind of "mass rampage." He's a loner; fearful/anxious; depressed; paranoid; socially inept; narcissistic; smart but narrow minded. His religion will play a role, but only in the political sense of "us v. them."

    I'm also going out on a limb and say we'll find out he has had women rejection issues, is fearful of women (so as someone said it is indeed ironic he was brought down by a woman), and probably extremely suppressed sexually.

    NEXT!!!

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    Well how do you draw the line between those who become extremists from reading the interwebz (A.Q.'s #1 recruiting tool) and those who are in the Kush mountains with The Base? Are both soldiers of AQ?
    If evidence comes out in any way that the man is actually connected to an AQ cell, or has routine contact with AQ operaties, then I'd draw the line of being a terrorist.

    If he's primarily just read websites, been in a few chat rooms, and has extreme views but has not actually had any actual interactions or any sort of operational attachment in any way with a terrorist organization, then I consider him a lone nut job.

    I don't think Lone Nut Jobs can perform acts of war

    Since at this point there's been no evidence of him attempting to make apply some type of political pressure or induce some kind of fear into the population and wasn't targeting civilians in general to make his point, I don't know if I'd call it an act of terrorism either.

    Perhaps if evidence comes out it was clear he did this because of his opposition to the War on Terror and was going after civilians staff members initially in hopes of scaring people into not risking their lives even locally by joining the military, then maybe I'd say its a terrorist act.......or if its found to have been something tied to a terrorist organization and facilitated/assisted/planned/encouraged by them.

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by tjinta ibis View Post
    I think we'll find out soon enough that this guy fits into a profile of people who do this kind of "mass rampage." He's a loner; fearful/anxious; depressed; paranoid; socially inept; narcissistic; smart but narrow minded. His religion will play a role, but only in the political sense of "us v. them."

    I'm also going out on a limb and say we'll find out he has had women rejection issues, is fearful of women (so as someone said it is indeed ironic he was brought down by a woman), and probably extremely suppressed sexually.

    NEXT!!!
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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Are you suggesting that we kick all muslim and/or middle eastern Americans out of the military?
    Certainly you aren't suggesting that we round up all middle easter Americans and put then in internment camps until the so-called "War on Terror" is over.
    Are you?
    You still have your head buried in the sand and don't believe we are in a "War on Terror"........After all that is happened and is still happening it is really scary that there are lefties out there like you that are still in a state of denial.........Sadly I guess the only thing that will get the attention of lefties like you is a nuclear cloud over La La land............
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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I say we kick all white soldiers out of the military since after all Timothy McVeigh was white.
    I don't believe McVeigh committed his crimes in the name of religion............
    "God Bless Our Troops in Harms Way."

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You still have your head buried in the sand and don't believe we are in a "War on Terror"........After all that is happened and is still happening it is really scary that there are lefties out there like you that are still in a state of denial.........Sadly I guess the only thing that will get the attention of lefties like you is a nuclear cloud over La La land............
    So are you suggesting that Arab Americans be kicked out of the military and that all Arabs in America be rounded up and put in concerntration camps?

    What exactly are you suggesting by your vague postings?
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I don't believe McVeigh committed his crimes in the name of religion............
    McVeigh and his movement were the teabaggers of their day.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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