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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    No it wouldn't.

    The problem lies in issues surrounding uneducation, corruption and poverty etc, many countries where extremism is alive. These problems are close by.
    You will not solve this problem through just getting a bunch of Muslims turning around and telling the extremists 'You are wrong'. You remove their support base by removing the reasons they exist.
    Uneducation, corruption, and poverty. These are the reasons for radicalism? I disagree, Bin Laden himself is from a wealthy family. Many of the terrorist who attacked the US on 911 were college educated, and came from wealthy families.

    Major Hasan was college educated and was born in the US to middle class parents.

    The 7/7 bombings in London were not commited by uneducated poverty stricken individuals.

    Please explain Lalia.

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    Major Hasan was college educated and was born in the US to middle class parents.
    And we still don't know that religion was his motivation. The fact that you are using this event to further your anti-Muslim agenda is disgusting.

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    And we still don't know that religion was his motivation.
    We know it was a factor.

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by MC.no.spin View Post
    The man clearly has allegiances to Islam with his garb
    So anyone who wears a cross or yarmulke should be kicked out of the military?

    and when taken along with his comments on the Internet (and made to other military personnel) they reveal he is a risk to have in a military unit faced with its current mission.
    And I agree that if they had known that he had made those comments, they should have done something. The reason they didn't know was because they didn't open an investigation. That isn't a religious issue, as anyone who made comments like that should be looked at.

    If this small piece of common sense evades your judgment, I am embarrassed for you.
    What common sense? All you've said so far is that all people who aren't second generation americans or who dress funny should be kicked out of the military. That's idiotic.
    People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by The silenced majority View Post
    So you are saying that a bunch of Bedouins who were made royalty by Standard Oil Co. justifies a racist interpretation of a religion that over its lifespan has been at odds with the Jew or the Kafir?
    No. It's only been a really recent event where Jews have been "at odds" with Muslims. Infact, if you could recall from your history textbooks, millions of Jews fled from Europe to live in the middle east because they were getting butchered during the inquisitions.
    Don't play that line, the past doesn't look kind for anyone.

    You don't know what Kafir means do you? Hint: It has nothing to do with Christians, Zoroastrians, or Jews. I'll give you an additional 10 points if you find the proper name for Jews and Christians in the Islamic tradition.

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    It is an oath ALSO used before every act of offensive Jihad. I was merely asking him what oath he'd use for his Christian violence so we'd know he was killing for Jesus.
    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    What oath is used today by Christians committing violence in Jesus' name?
    Why are you so impressionable? Why do religious extremists rewrite the definition of phrases in your mind? Allahu Akbar is said billions and billions of times in a single day and your definition is "an oath" for Islamic terrorism?

    I bet the Christians who commit violence, but of course it's *never* in the name of Christianity (because unlike Islam, Christianity speaks of nothing but peace and good will toward men), probably use a plethora of cultural phrases, but none that I can repeat here.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Islamic terrorism/violence towards others isn't wide spread?

    Two words: Cartoon Riots
    Haha yeah that was totally widespread. I'm still hiding.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Also...

    could someone tell me why this is terrorism and not a mass murder?

    if this was done by a christian, or an athiest, who disagreed with the war and us being over there would it be a "terrorist" act.

    Sorry, I've never seen any definition of a terrorist act as "Any murder done by a muslim"

    Why is this terrorism?

    It didn't seem intended by anything that's came out so far to send a political message through fear. It wasn't targetting civilians. There's been zero evidence thus far of being tied to any actual terrorist groups.

    Why is this terrorism?
    It's neither terrorism, nor mass murder. He attacked military service men on military property... it was an act of militarism; an act of war.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    How many people have been forced to become Muslim over the past fourteen-hundred years?
    Why do you ask such impossible questions?


    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    We are veering terribly far afield here. Let's rein it in shall we? Let's get back to the subject of the thread. Hasan and his act of violence in the name of Allah.
    No. The thread is about the murder of military servicemen at Fort Hood, Tx.
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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    We know it was a factor.
    Ah, so I take it you spoke to him and he told you this?

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    It's neither terrorism, nor mass murder. He attacked military service men on military property... it was an act of militarism; an act of war.
    Or you could call it espionage, if he was dressed in fatigues.

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    Ah, so I take it you spoke to him and he told you this?
    I read the reports of the incident and his actions speak for themselves.

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    I read the reports of the incident and his actions speak for themselves.
    Well, I'll wait until we are officially told what his motivations were before jumping to unnecessary conclusions and assuming what they were.

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    I don't think we have enough information at this time to draw any substantive conclusions about his motivation(s). There exist tangential dots, but as of yet they do not interconnect to form a clear and cohesive picture. Conjecture at this time is both pointless and divisive.

    From what I understand, it was a female soldier or police officer who put an end to his killing spree. Has this been confirmed?

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