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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Oh, ok. Here's one, right here.



    It's not his fault, it's the fault of, "those who have harrassed him...", and the fault of, "the system that is forcing him into some kind of nightmare..."

    I rest my case.
    That's not defending him. That's offering a plausible explanation of this cowards acts. I'm not defending him in the least. It's a counter to the "he did this cuz he's mooslim" theories that you and other of your ilk are so fond of. There could very well be factors, other than religion, that led this scumbag to kill these poor people. That's the point. Read. Read. Read. Understand. Understand.

    You don't do this whole debate thing very much do you?
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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    What's Jesus doing in a grave? o.O
    Yeah, she must have skipped that day of Bible school. LOL

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    I agree with you on everything but the terrorist part. I think his emotional melt down is the predominant factor. He didn't need to use Islam as an excuse to kill, the excuse is irrelevant. He had snapped. Where I think Islam plays a factor is that it was a big part of his life, and as in most cases of mental break down and delusion, the elements of your life are dramatically affected. Perception is altered, reality warped.

    There is no evidence he was a sane person who was simply fulfilling his religious duties to smite the unbelievers as some have forwarded. There is plenty of evidence that he was very much against the war and emotionally distraught. The emotional meltdown here is the predominant factor in my opinion, not his religion.


    Oh I agree with you on all of this. The religion and the islamic extremism was a way for him to justify his barbarism in his head.

    It was an excuse. Not a cause.


    That said, I still call it terrorism, because he adopted the views of these terrorists, even if his reasoinings were not genuine.
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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Yeah, she must have skipped that day of Bible school. LOL
    Bible school? o.O
    But other than that true, I forgot he apparently got up and walked away.


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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    You, perhaps, misunderstand?
    Not at all. This is your classic fallback when called on your extremist rhetoric. "You just don't get me." Oh I get you alright, so do many others. You have a very vocal, anti-Islamic agenda. You have since you arrived on this forum. The only thing that differs you from mbig or apdst is that you attempt to cloak your extremism in churched up commentary. They are just out in the open about it.
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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Bible school? o.O
    But other than that true, I forgot he apparently got up and walked away.




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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    I agree with you on everything but the terrorist part. I think his emotional melt down is the predominant factor. He didn't need to use Islam as an excuse to kill, the excuse is irrelevant. He had snapped. Where I think Islam plays a factor is that it was a big part of his life, and as in most cases of mental break down and delusion, the elements of your life are dramatically affected. Perception is altered, reality warped.

    There is no evidence he was a sane person who was simply fulfilling his religious duties to smite the unbelievers as some have forwarded. There is plenty of evidence that he was very much against the war and emotionally distraught. The emotional meltdown here is the predominant factor in my opinion, not his religion.
    You are making an argument that baffles me. Mental distress that might not be critically debilitating in and of itself combined with Islam means a deadly combination???

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    DONT SNAP YOU CRAZY MUSLIM!
    Oh she's gonna snap alright.

    But not like this guy....

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    You are making an argument that baffles me. Mental distress that might not be critically debilitating in and of itself combined with Islam means a deadly combination???
    What???????
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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Okay.
    So you tell me what you expect Moderate Muslims to do. In detail if you please.

    Also include the strategies and tactics you would suggest we use to try and eradicate the Taliban and Al Qaeda. Something the West has failed to do.

    is it up to the West? My understanding is that at every turn Pakistan has said they don't want any forces in their country, and that they would deal with it.

    So now why is it the West's fault that Pakistan has largely failed to live up to their promises?


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