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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    No, I don't think so. Your cousin isn't here posting. I have several Muslim friends and my cousin and her husband are Muslim. My late uncle was Muslim. As long as you make these absurdly insulting comments you do about Muslims, I'll show you the same treatment.

    Deal with it.
    What comment of mine was absurdly insulting about Muslims?

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It's not his fault, it's the fault of, "those who have harrassed him...", and the fault of, "the system that is forcing him into some kind of nightmare..."

    I rest my case.
    I fail to see how that constitutes as defending the guy. It's merely pointing out a possible reason for his actions just as the people who are immediately pointing fingers at Islam have done. Though, I must say, earlier you said "folks" have been doing this. Is that's the only example you could find?

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    Seriously, that's the timeline you are working with? How many people have been forced to become Christian over the past fourteen-hundred years?
    How bout you give us a comparitive study?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Yeah, and those of you that are your pulpit, preaching to me are never around when the same thing is done to others.
    The last thread like what you're talking about I can remember was the one about the Census worker, where I was in there ROUTINELY saying you can't jump to conclusions that the tea parties caused it, that it was some religious nut job, or conservatives and you can't blame Beck or Rush for it.

    Please link me to the thread you're specifically talking about. Good chance I was around in it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Simple, he took on the cause of the enemy who commits terrorist acts.

    Do I believe he was sincere and not rationalizing? Nah see my previous post.

    However, he hit all the marks, and took up the cause whether it was for genuine or for superficial excuse making for his homicidal breakdown, it, is, indeed, terrorism to me.
    See, this is one of the issues with this war. Nothing makes sense. Case in point....

    You're saying now that anyone that takes a criminal action for the same cause of the enemy is not doing a criminal act, or an act of war, but is doing a terrorist act.

    So therefore all those people setting off IED's or that have attacked our embassy in Iraq after the invasion are not acts of war but terrorist acts.

    But when I point out that we didn't have any attacks on our land from 1993 to 2001 I get told that the embassy bombings count as "our land", but they don't count when they've happened in the past 8 years because those aren't terrorist acts but actions of war.

    It seems people are wanting it both ways, being able to call anything terrorism or not terrorism how it suits them for the argument their making.

    So what you're saying is that anyone that commits a criminal act because they agree with the enemy, they're a terrorist?

    So a kid spray painting "Stop this illegal war", which is a belief the terrorists share, is a terrorist cause he's taking up their cause? Yes, that's going to an extreme, but you've given me no other real criteria to go off of.

    Sorry, unless he's actually found to be CONNECTED to that group in some way shape or form, to me this is an obvious and clear act of MASS MURDER....just like columbine, or the museum shootings, or all other mass shootings in recent memory.

    Unless there comes out some evidence he's connected to a terrorist cell, has some things in place after that was hoping to send a political message, or he was specifically targetting civilians on the base to inspire fear in them, there's nothing here that shows me "terrorism".

    (now i wait to see if someone calls me an "apologist", cause you know, down playing "terrorism" as mass murder is like you're just calling it jay walking )

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Violent, "bits"? Islam's entire history is based on violence.

    I recall all the times since 9/11 people saying that the rest of us need to educated about Islam. I don't think is us that needs to be educated.
    When you make sweeping generalizations about an entire religion based on the violence committed by the minority of extremists, I'd say you actually do need to be educated.

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    What comment of mine was absurdly insulting about Muslims?
    You're not defending Islam, so you're insulting Muslims.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Violent, "bits"? Islam's entire history is based on violence.

    I recall all the times since 9/11 people saying that the rest of us need to educated about Islam. I don't think is us that needs to be educated.
    Lol
    Still you act like Islam is the only religion with violence in it's history.
    Jesus must be rolling in his grave at what Christians have done in his name a thousand+ years ago


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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    When you make sweeping generalizations about an entire religion based on the violence committed by the minority of extremists, I'd say you actually do need to be educated.
    You would think that with that many Muslims in the world, they could quell the violence within their own reigion.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    How bout you give us a comparitive study?
    And what exactly would that prove? The point is that both religions have engaged in extremist behavior in the past and you can't accurately judge a whole religion on this stuff whether it be Christianity or Islam.

    If you want to see a comparative study, look one up yourself.

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You're not defending Islam, so you're insulting Muslims.
    Nonsense.

    Assuming all Muslims are going to snap just because they follow Islam and the likelihood of them being disloyal is there because of that is insulting.
    Assuming we are all terrorist and/or support them is insulting.


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