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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    The problem lies in issues surrounding uneducation, corruption and poverty etc, many countries where extremism is alive.
    My problem with this formulation is that we have examples of terrorists who are not uneducated, corrupt, or impovershed. Hasan, if he's a "terrorist" is educated and seemingly non-radicalized; or is he? Many of the 9/11 terrorists had college degrees and careers. Many of the top level guys in Al Qaeda are college educated in the west.

    It seems it may be an ideological issue and not a social or education deficit issue.

    You mentioned the Saudis I believe, an issue Al Qaeda takes up with. They are propped up by western powers, and everyone knows it. Al Qaeda has a resonant point there, and it has nothing to do with social or economic hardship.

    Am I wrong?

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    What don't like the logic thrown back towards the Christian right? Doesn't taste good or what?
    Show me where the "religious right" is compelled by their religion to smite the unbeliever.

    Show me any country that is predominately "Religious right" that persecutes religious minorities.

    Your anology was an enormus fail.

    Abortion clinic bombers are roundly criticized by mainstream Christians too.

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    It just means Allah is the Greatest and has its origins from being the opening declaration in every Islamic prayer
    Well of course, but it also apparently is a blood oath that means kill Whitey or something.
    *insert profound statement here*

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    It was not "all the libbos" who did that. That logic is retarded. It was retarded then as it is now.
    Retarded as it may be, some of the very ones defending this nut-job were the same ones crying about the hateful, racist and evil Religious Right.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It's no different than when that nut job shot up that church a while back and all the Libbos went on for weeks about how the Christian Right preached hate and it was all the fault of Beck, Hannity and Limbaugh.

    If--according to the Libs--all Right Wingers are natural born racists, then it's just as acceptable to say that all Muslims are natural born murderers.




    Yes, Goldendog comes to mind. EVERYTHING is the fault of us right wingers.


    Even in this thread he blames us.



    But lets not lower ourselves to that sort of rhetoric....


    I have heard some on the left refer to us who served as murderers, rapists, war criminals, and on and on. But its thier fringe.

    Usually in a thread like this they will counter any critisizm about islam with very strained references to christianity to avoid the non pc topic.


    But lets no lose sight of the big pitcure here. Yes, this guy was a Muslim, yes this guy cracked when he was told he was going over there. he used his religion and his political beliefs to commit a horrific crime murderous attack of islamic terrorism.

    Some want to equate all of islam with this act of islamic barbarism..... it hurts our fight when we do so.,
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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    However a large number of Islamic militants can be found in the ghettos of the Middle East.
    Yeah, being radicalized in an organized fashion, at least in Gaza and perhaps southern Lebanon and perhaps even Egypt and Jordan and Saudi Arabia. Then there is Iran and the Basijis...

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Retarded as it may be, some of the very ones defending this nut-job were the same ones crying about the hateful, racist and evil Religious Right.
    Who? I'm sure you can find evidence in this thread to back that claim yes?


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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    First and foremost, my thoughts go out to the friends and families of the victims.

    Whenever things like this happen people are always very eager to assign blame to something. Very rarely does the actual shooter get as much blame as their motivation for doing the act. Frankly, I don't give a rat's ass what made this guy do it. The fact is that he committed a horrible act by killing and wounding many of our soldiers. Personally, I find it disgusting that anyone would use an act like this to further their agenda whether it be anti-Muslim or whatever. There are millions of peaceful Muslims who don't do things like this. So we should now condemn an entire religion because a minority of nut jobs like this guy kill a bunch of people? If Islam truly advocated this type of extremist behavior it would be far more widespread and there would be no such thing as a peaceful Muslim. Honestly, what happened to personal responsibility?

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    It was not "all the libbos" who did that. That logic is retarded. It was retarded then as it is now. Gross characterizations based upon the acts of a select few are retarded. Retarded. Retarded.
    My cousin is mentally challenged and I object to the word, 'retarded.'

    Show some sensitivity, please.

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    I know that, Laila. Thank you.
    Good to know you see nothing is wrong with the term Allahu Akbar


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