If the majority of people against abortion...
If the majority of people against poverty
If the majority of people against driving while texting
If the majority of people......
point being, until we stop making excused for our apathy, This argument, one I used to use all the time, doesn't hold water in the big picture of things.
yes, MANY MANY muslims are apathetic, or quietly support these savages in certain hot bed countries. but for the vast majority, they are like you and I and just want to live thier lives.
Matthew 10:34Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
The problem lies in issues surrounding uneducation, corruption and poverty etc, many countries where extremism is alive. These problems are close by.
You will not solve this problem through just getting a bunch of Muslims turning around and telling the extremists 'You are wrong'. You remove their support base by removing the reasons they exist.
I agree. If the military actually had information that one of their officers was making comments like this they should have done something. Of course I've yet to actually have any of your characterizations substantiated, but let's not wait for a detailed assessment of what he actually said. Saying Muslims in Iraq should stand up against Americans isn't cheering radical Islam. It's voicing dissent about our invasion of Iraq and making statements that should have had him thrown out of the military. Equating a suicide bomber who attacks military targets to a soldier throwing himself on a grenade or a kamikaze pilot isn't "cheering" radical Islam (which would actually have to consist of him making specific comments encouraging suicide bombers and such...which he may have, but not to the blog entries I've read). It's a very skewed rationale he had in my opinion, but I didn't see him encouraging Muslims blow themselves up.There is something very wrong with the fact he was allowed to stay in the military when months ago his postings on the internet were discovered, where he was found to be cheering radical Islam in other troop attacks, and clearly voicing anti-American sentiment.
Let's just cut some of the myopic bull**** that some here are proliferating. The majority of Iraqi's don't want us there, they haven't wanted us there for some time. The majority of Iraqi's are Muslim. The majority of insurgents are Muslim. Resisting the American occupation of Iraq doesn't make you a radical Muslim, it makes you someone who is resisting the American occupation. There is a difference between someone who is simply a Muslim insurgent and someone who is a radical Muslim extremist.
And the intolerant, ignorant, and extremist right is making this all about the perils of evil Islam and playing at their usual rush to conclusions about things. I see the same thing in the ME forum all the time. The majority of extremist anti-Islamics that argue in there are completely ****ing clueless about the history of the region and how things actually played out. Like our friend mbig here...he'll take anything that supports his most extremist point of view and call it fact. He's yet to produce an objective source for his claims...or even a remotely unambiguous source. If a Muslim is involved in a death it's because of religion...period...that's how the thinks.The limp-wristed left wants to turn this into a "must defend the minority" campaign about being mean to Muslims.
Patently false and completely unsubstantiated. This is the anti-Islam fallback and it plays out here all to often. Rather than actually articulate an intelligent case that proves your assertions and justifies the sweeping and ignorant condemnations that are being cast the anti-Islam goon squad decries "PC PC PC" and just snickers amongst themselves as if they have all the answers because they can link a dozen websites on the net that say Muslims are bad and Islam is evil.That's not the point. The real issue is that American lives are lost because of "political correctness" and being afraid to offend those who hate America.
Yes, reason and intelligent examination of the issue is so overrated. Why not go with your "gut" and say what you "know or believe in your heart." Remember those savage blacks who wanted to rape our women?
They will have a legitimate, recognizable, actually reasonable gripe...
...in this case anger and a problem with muslim extremists who press their religion to far, and possibly even a culture that is afraid to point that out before hand...
...and then they explode it and over blow it to such a huge extent that no only does their actual legitimate issue get washed away, but they say SUCH outlandish things that it actually makes some people second guess that actual legitimate thought due to the insanity that some of those originally pushing it immedietely move onto.
Nevermind the ironic dark humor of the fact that part of the reason our culture IS so afraid to point out the extremism before hand is in part caused also due to a segment of the population that think having Palestinean Parents and wearing traditional garb (such as what Mc.No.Spin originally presented as reason enough that he shouldn't be allowed in the military) is enough to be considered "risky extremist behavior".
I always wonder how much more support various political views or movements could get if they'd focus on reality rather than the hyped up or trumped up threats/scenarios/interpritations.
"I am appalled that somebody who is the nominee...would take that kind of position"
"A court took away a presidency"
"...the brother of a man running for president was the governor of the state..."
It's horrifying because Trump is blunt instead of making overt implications.