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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    Open your eyes people, this guy was handing out copies of the Quran yesterday morning (fact) He is a good muslim doing exactly what a good muslim is supposed to do.
    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    It's becoming clear to me that from day to day we can't know when a Muslim will suddenly wake up and decide that they should take the Koran literally.

    Today, a peace loving, devout, quiet, happy person...

    Tomorrow, a radical.
    You are got to be ****ting me.


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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    It's a sacred cow. If a Muslim individual or group here or anywhere else in the world engages in a terrorist act, you absolutely cannot denounce them. You cannot criticize them. You cannot comment on them in any negative way whatsoever, and this despite what they believe, despite the connections between their beliefs and actions, and despite the fact they have just killed a bunch of people. All that matters are the words "muslim", and the knee jerk need to defend.
    You can denounce as many individuals as you please.
    And you can criticise, comment and judge them.

    I think the line is drawn when the criticism of that individual is generalized to a very diverse group.

    I can just as easily call this individual a crazy Muslim soldier who seemed to have snapped and murdered a bunch of people for no purpose it seems but to validate their sterotypes. If someone is too scared to say that they need to grow some balls.
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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    You are got to be ****ting me.
    The assessment of the process is sound.

    One day a seed takes root and then the person becomes radical.

    How long it takes is the only question.

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by GySgt View Post
    Immigrant parents of Palestine have quite an impact about the Israeli issue on their children (Palestinian children are encouraged to walk on the Star of David in their schools). Being "made fun of" is a pathetic excuse. He had deep torn feelings about fighting in a war where Muslims were the enemy. Perhaps he got far more pressured harassment from his parents post 9/11.

    So this is to go down as a "School shooting" where the nerd had a bully problem? All other factors are to be shoved as far away as possible....until the next time....again? This is going to have so much media BS on this.
    OORRRRRRRRR....it could boil down to a mentally imbalanced individual lashing out at those who have harassed him and the system that is forcing him into some kind of nightmare by sending him to fight a war that he is against.

    Would you concede there is a difference between a man who kills because he is having a mental breakdown and happens to be Muslim and a Muslim who kills because he is executing what he believes is his religious duty to murder infidels?
    *insert profound statement here*

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    You are got to be ****ting me.
    No, he's not kidding you. This is how he thinks. This is how many extremists on this forum think.
    *insert profound statement here*

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    The assessment of the process is sound.

    One day a seed takes root and then the person becomes radical.

    How long it takes is the only question.




    So when do think Laila will crack..... Come on man.... there are a billion muslims... People don't need god to go on a kill crazy rampage, all they need is thier mankindedness, God is just the excuse possibly in this case....
    Let evil swiftly befall those who have wrongly condemned us

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    The assessment of the process is sound.

    One day a seed takes root and then the person becomes radical.

    How long it takes is the only question.
    So my brother who has been in the British army for 12 years is a suspect just because he happens to share the religion as the enemy?

    Honestly your posts astound me sometimes by their close mindedness.


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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    So my brother who has been in the British army for 12 years is a suspect just because he happens to share the same faith as the enemy?

    Honestly your posts astound me sometimes by their close mindedness.



    Thank him for his service in the army of our greatest ally!
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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Didn't take long for people to start making excuses for clown. In a couple days, he's gonna be the victim.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    It's becoming clear to me that from day to day we can't know when a Muslim will suddenly wake up and decide that they should take the Koran literally.

    Today, a peace loving, devout, quiet, happy person...

    Tomorrow, a radical.
    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    I think thats a bit far....
    I think Reverend is spot on here.

    The latest real count of the amount of muslims in the U.S. is 2.5 million by the Pew Research Center this year. That's a lower number than some other sources (Encyclopedia Britannica reported 4.7 in 2004, CAIR 6 to 7 mil in 2001), but we'll go with that. That's essentially one muslim for ever 122 non-muslims in this country.

    How many accounts do we have per year of Muslim Americans going off the deep end and committing crimes in the name of their religion?

    Lets give it a HUGE benefit of the doubt and go really high, say 100 a year across the entire U.S.

    That's still 1 muslim becoming "a radical" for every 250,000 muslims per year. The difference in ratio there between "radical law breaking muslim" and normal muslim there is 2000 times greater than the ratio between muslim and non-muslim citizen.

    And that's going on the high side of saying that 100 muslims per year kill people or try to kill people due to the religion, which frankly even if we take the notion of the news not wanting to report it into account still to me seems a bit high. But lets go higher.

    Lets say 1,000 of them do it.

    Again that's still 1 in every 2500, still 20 times the ratio of Muslim to Non-Muslims in this country.

    Starting to massively restrict the rights of muslims in this country due to the acts of what truly comes down to a minority amount of them acting out is the nothing but pure, unadulterated, raping of the constitution and the freedoms this country was built on.

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