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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by B L Zeebub View Post
    I has just woken up and watched the report on the BBC, this person was deranged, my thoughts are for the victims and their families.
    Same, I woke up to this on LBC. Condolences to the victims of this attack.

    It seems this person was mentally unstable and some people just cannot cope in the Army.
    My question is why wasn't this picked up before he snapped and killed so many people?
    And if this occured because he was 'bullied' or 'taunted' for his faith, all he has done is re enforce stereotypes, so .... well done him on a job well done. I doubt the military is a nice place to be if the enemy shares a religion or race with the individual soldier as the military or rather many at the bottom do label their enemy as 'ragheads' etc. but that doesn't excuse anything but what I do not understand is why once again some people in this thread seem to be taking this tragic incident of a individual going nuts as a means to tar and blame once again a religion.
    There are many Muslims not only in the US Army but also across Europe including UK fighting in Afghanistan and many have also died as well.
    I think it is disgusting how some people are taking this and using it for their own agenda and trying to increase bigotry, they should be ashamed of themselves.
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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    It seems this person was mentally unstable and some people just cannot cope in the Army.

    My question is why wasn't this picked up before he snapped and killed so many people?
    Sometimes stress/fear can cause a person to snap if he/she is not able to cope very well. A lot of work remains to be done to get a good understanding of why the individual carried out the massacre.

    As for the other issue, at this time, one can only speculate on possible reasons at this time. Perhaps the military was stretched thin and focused on other matters relating to Iraq and Afghanistan and unable to find the time to look further into the psychiatrist's evolution. Perhaps, because he is a psychiatrist, there was an implicit assumption that he had a better capacity to cope with a variety of issues that might cause problems for others. One won't really know until a thorough examination is completed.

    In the meantime, rash prejudgments should be avoided. For example, one should not assume that his religion automatically was the cause of what happened. The vast majority of Muslims who serve in the U.S. military do so honorably. If religion itself were the problem, then one would expect to see many more such incidents. It isn't. The problem concerns the individual himself. His perceptions, his inability to cope with possible deployment, his stress/fears, and other personal factors/experiences probably all converged to precipitate what took place. For now, the investigative work is just beginning.

    My thoughts and prayers are with the victims of this horrific act of violence. Understanding what happened will come later once the investigation is completed.

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Lets not call this what it is. We might offend someone. We should make excuses for this poor Major who was ridiculed so badly that he was forced to commit mass murder. Ignor the fact that he said that muslims should strap bombs to themselfs and detonate in Times Square, he is simply a confused misunderstander of Islam not a blood thirsty jihadist. Please continue to ignore the facts so as not to upset the balance and harmony in your imaginary eutopia.

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by MC.no.spin View Post
    The man clearly has allegiances to Islam with his garb and when taken along with his comments on the Internet (and made to other military personnel) they reveal he is a risk to have in a military unit faced with its current mission.

    If this small piece of common sense evades your judgment, I am embarrassed for you.
    Except that's not what you originally said. You originally said he shouldn't be allowed in the military simply because he was raised by Palestinian parents.

    Yes, ANYONE that starts saying how we need more suicide bombers attacking Americans, that maybe it'll be good if we lose, we need more soldier deaths, etc while serving in the military DEFINITELY needs to be investigated and removed.

    However that is DISTINCTIVELY different than banning anyone that happens to be the same religion as our enemies at the moment, or ethnically similar to our enemies, who otherwise have shown ZERO indications they aren't loyal to this country, which is what you seemed to have been supporting the first time.

    If at a point we go to war with China are you advocating we do immedietely kick out and disallow anyone with a generation to two of Chinese decent, or hell just ban anyone that looks asian.

    God forbid if we ever go to war against a country that's primarily Christian. That's going to be one HUUUUUUGE purge of the military.

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    Lets not call this what it is. We might offend someone. We should make excuses for this poor Major who was ridiculed so badly that he was forced to commit mass murder. Ignor the fact that he said that muslims should strap bombs to themselfs and detonate in Times Square, he is simply a confused misunderstander of Islam not a blood thirsty jihadist. Please continue to ignore the facts so as not to upset the balance and harmony in your imaginary eutopia.
    For the love of christ, who is saying this or are you ranting about idiotic hypotheticals that aren't actually happening?

    Who is saying "Oh, he's just a misunderstood chap" or even saying "His religion likely had nothing at all to do with this"

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    I'm wondering how well the armed forces are taking seriously the off the wall statements made by soldiers, Muslim or not? Shouldn't there be some mandatory reporting of questionable things said, especially treasonous ones?

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    If there was an indication that the Military knew of this monster's radicalism and let it slide because the military has been infested with Political Correctness, I fully support the families of the victims coming together and suing the US Army for 1 trillion or more dollars in damages.

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    So essentially you're fully in favor of taxes going up, government debt going up, and still after that likely either government spending going up or large amounts of missing needed equipment for our troops that are going to be serving in the line of danger because you want to make a point about Political Correctness.

    How patriotic of you. Much more important to get political correctness out of the military than perhaps supplying body armor.

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

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    Very disturbing.

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