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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    I could explain it to you but I'm not sure if you're actually interested in the answer.
    Really? I couldn't explain it. I just generally know, but it isn't an exact science.

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by GySgt View Post
    So he murders as many as possible to prove them right. Well, I guess case is solved. I stated before that this would be fine tuned to something people could rationally understand it appears to be going in that direction. He was merely bullied. The next incident will undoubtedly have another rational explanation. Anything but the politically incorrect accurate one.
    Which is what, exactly?

    I don't think anyone is claiming that his faith had absolutely nothing to do with this, as it seems like it certainly had some impact. By the same token, I think it would be equally absurd to claim that this developed entirely because of his religion and that there were no other factors.

    Earlier reports indicated that this guy is a middle-aged man with no girlfriend and no kids, who got poor performance reviews at his job, had a drinking problem, and was having trouble with his coworkers.

    Until we have more information, I think it's a bit premature to label this guy a "crazy muslim terrorist" and conclude that that's the only reason why this happened.
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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

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    So why is it automatically religious hatred and not PTSD
    PTSD doesn't make you kill your brothers. Anyone who says otherwise is a filthy lying coward.

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Which is what, exactly?

    I don't think anyone is claiming that his faith had absolutely nothing to do with this, ....
    On the contrary. I haven't really seen anywhere yet where the media is even willing to look into his religious beliefs except as a tossed in "non factor." Timothy McVeigh? He was a "Christian" the moment they found out.

    I just don't get it.
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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

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    On the contrary. I haven't really seen anywhere yet where the media is even willing to look into his religious beliefs except as a tossed in "non factor."
    Hannity on Fox News was all over this angle actually.
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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by MC.no.spin View Post
    Could not agree more.

    "Being made fun of" is definitely a pathetic excuse; he was also a psychiatrist and is supposed to be more aware of how to deal with such responses from others.

    There is something very wrong with the fact he was allowed to stay in the military when months ago his postings on the internet were discovered, where he was found to be cheering radical Islam in other troop attacks, and clearly voicing anti-American sentiment.

    The limp-wristed left wants to turn this into a "must defend the minority" campaign about being mean to Muslims. That's not the point. The real issue is that American lives are lost because of "political correctness" and being afraid to offend those who hate America.
    From the article:

    At least six months ago, Hasan came to the attention of law enforcement officials because of Internet postings about suicide bombings and other threats, including posts that equated suicide bombers to soldiers who throw themselves on a grenade to save the lives of their comrades.

    They had not determined for certain whether Hasan is the author of the posting, and a formal investigation had not been opened before the shooting
    I'm not sure how you conclude from this that he was "allowed to stay in the military to satisfy the limp-wristed left."
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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by GySgt View Post
    On the contrary. I haven't really seen anywhere yet where the media is even willing to look into his religious beliefs except as a tossed in "non factor." Timothy McVeigh? He was a "Christian" the moment they found out.

    I just don't get it.
    From my perspective, that's not how this has played out. The minute that they discovered his name, MSNBC said that "the suspect is someone with an Arabic-sounding name." ABC news followed up by announcing that he was a Muslim convert. Chris Matthews spent an hour asking everyone he could about whether this was "radicalized beliefs" in action. Multiple channels have had interviews with his imam from 10 years ago, talking about his religion.
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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by GySgt View Post
    Really? I couldn't explain it. I just generally know, but it isn't an exact science.
    My terp was a Jordanian. I watched a lot of Jordanian TV (sat) in Iraq, too.

    Jordanians (from what I've seen) generally have a lighter or softer complexion than Saudis; it's a dark olive, I suppose. They also have rounded facial structures, whereas Saudis are sharper, more angular.

    I dunno. When I saw him I thought he was Jordanian; he looked “Jordanian” to me. Something intuitive I guess.

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by MC.no.spin View Post
    Hannity on Fox News was all over this angle actually.
    No so interesting. It's Hannity. O'Reilly will also address the obvious. But does the rest of the media really need to seek that upbringing answer that explains the serial killer in terms we can understand? That social aspect that makes the trigger puller a victim?

    It's actually simpler than people want to attribute to it. Was he a Jew, a Christian, a Buddhist, a Hindu, an athiest, a Japanese, a Chinese, a Russian, a Wiccan, or Hobbit would this have even happened? The answer is "no." But even with the fact that he was an extreme minority, raised by Paslestinian parents, forced to deploy to a war to fight his own Muslim kind, and chose to lash out on the enemy of the Tali-Ban, we see the need for simple rational explanations.

    Bin Laden's letter of justification to the American people was about just that. Even our enemy knows how to manipulate the American crowd.
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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by David Duke is Right View Post
    Michael Savage just had a caller who reported that he went to the shooters facebook page before it was removed and saw that he was a member of a facebook fanatical islamic group. Also it took the Usurper 2 minutes into his healthcare speech to comment on the shootings. He should have mentioned it first. This could be a diversion to something more sinister according to Savage. This shooting is more than a isolated incident. The liberal MSM spin has already started. Islam converts should be not allowed into the military since we are at war with terrorist who are mainly Muslims. It appears they can't be trusted.
    Did Savage give you the winning Lotto numbers, too?

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