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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by GySgt View Post
    Oh c'mon.

    We would if there was an entire civilization of Christians that blamed the world for their own designed and prescribed messes as their extremist groups launched attacks upon our military, embassies, and American cities. We would if entire Christian societies bred and applauded the launching of suicide bombers into a neighboring country. And don't pretend it doesn't happen because we see it every damn day throughout the region while the masses in the region simply look away.

    It is true that a follower of Jesus can be dangerous as a follower of Muhammed. Why we can even point towards Phillip II and Thomas Muntzer as that Christian comparison towards today's Osama Bin Laden in Islam. But the difference is the time periods, Thomas Muntzer and Phillip II slaughtered within Christianity, and Osama Bin Laden blames the west for all that is wrong with his pathetic failed world. This is not to suggest that Islam doesn't slaughter within its own religion. We have seen plenty of example of just how far they will slaughter each other in the name of tribe and God. But unlike the Chrisitian fanatics of the 16th century, today's religioius militant groups and terrorist organizations strike beyond their religion. Today's "Christian" fanatics may organize and drink kool-aid.

    There is no double standard in stating a truth. There is, however, a double standard in the media's quest to avoid all things sensitive to Muslims while printing anything insulting towards Christiains under the sun. See? Even the media knows what is and is not a threat in the 21st century.
    Islamic Extremism (Jihadists) make up a very, very, very small portion of the entire Muslim population. Further, the percentage to those whose main objective is to attack internationally is even smaller (you never hear about Hizbullah or Hamas) hijacking airplanes, blowing up United States ships, or bombing Western cities. They are about regional politics-- Islamic Extremism is undoubtably in response to regional governments. We can consider the time in which we live a Muslim reformation of sorts.

    There's a damn good reason why A.Q had to take refuge in Afghanistan, home of waste-lands and tribal warfare... A.Q. is almost completely different than every other Terrorist organization, muslim or not.

    Putting blame on an entire group of people for the actions of a single black sheep is absurd.

    It seems less a Muslim issue and more a Middle Eastern issue.

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by David Duke is Right View Post
    CNN say he isn't talking and probably the reason why is since he didn't want to go to Iraq and is anti-war he is counting on the liberal jewish backed ( A fact) ACLU attorneys to show up to defend him.
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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Yea, here's what CAIR had to say about this shooting:/They certainly sound like terrorist sympathizers, eh?
    Except when its jews (whoops, I meant to type "zionists") are the victims, because THEN it's well.....but....but.....

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by rogerredy View Post
    Except when its jews (whoops, I meant to type "zionists") are the victims, because THEN it's well.....but....but.....
    You can always go back, edit, and delete your mistypings.
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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Perhaps not the same Nidal Hasan? BUT!

    Did Nidal Malik Hasan Telegraph His Shooting Spree? MediaElites



    Did Nidal Malik Hasan Telegraph His Shooting Spree?

    Posted by Steve Huff, Nov 5, 2009

    UPDATE, 8:20 p.m.: Sources tell the Associated Press that Nidal Malik Hasan came “to their attention at least Six Months ago because of Internet postings that discussed suicide bombings and other threats.”
    So… read on.

    Original post made at 7:37 p.m.

    We should really, really keep in mind the possibility that Nidal Hasan may not be as uncommon a name as the average American might assume.

    Still,
    an interesting comment was made by a “NidalHasan” on May 20, 2009 on a document published on the document hosting service, Scribd.com. The document was titled, “Martyrdom in Islam vs. Suicide Bombing.” (http://www.scribd.com/doc/3989813/Ma...uicide-Bombing) Regarding the content of the document, “NidalHasan” wrote the following (http://www.scribd.com/NidalHasan):
    "There was a grenade thrown amongs a group of American soldiers. One of the soldiers, feeling that it was to late for everyone to flee jumped on the grave with the intention of saving his comrades. Indeed he saved them. He inentionally took his life (suicide) for a noble cause i.e. saving the lives of his soldier. To say that this soldier committed suicide is inappropriate.
    Its more appropriate to say he is a brave hero that sacrificed his life for a more noble cause. Scholars have paralled this to suicide bombers whose intention, by sacrificing their lives, is to help save Muslims by killing enemy soldiers.
    If one suicide bomber can kill 100 enemy soldiers because they were caught off guard that would be considered a strategic victory. Their intention is not to die because of some despair. The same can be said for the Kamikazees in Japan. They died (via crashing their planes into ships) to kill the enemies for the homeland.
    You can call them crazy if you want but their act was not one of suicide that is despised by Islam. So the scholars main point is that “IT SEEMS AS THOUGH YOUR INTENTION IS THE MAIN ISSUE” and Allah (SWT) knows best."
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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by goldendog View Post
    Given what we know already his motives could have been anything...why speculate when you just don't really know?
    If no one ever speculated 24 hour news wouldn't exist and neither would most posts in message boards

    However, if you have a better theory as to why he did it based on everything we know up to this point, I'd love to see it.

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    No, I'm not kidding. If you think that the majority of Muslims in the US sympathize with the people we're fighting overseas, you're ****ing nuts.
    I never said that. But if you are proclaiming there isn't a large population of Muslims that do sympathize with the terrorists you are ****ing nuts.

    Yea, here's what CAIR had to say about this shooting:



    They certainly sound like terrorist sympathizers, eh?
    hahahhaha What do you think they are going to say? Praise Allah?

    I go by their deeds not their words. You should try it.

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    Islamic Extremism (Jihadists) make up a very, very, very small portion of the entire Muslim population. .....
    I can quote numbers that make everything look like nothing is wrong and that people are overeacting too. But there is a general, disturbing truth that this avoids...

    An entire region is consumed in tribal and racial violence by their own fellow Muslims. We see the slaughtering grounds of Sudan. We see the suicide bombings in Palestine. We see the tribes slaughter without mercy in Iraq. We see the Tali-Ban's dreams of prescribing oppression and brutality upon their fellow Muslims. And the governments of Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Syria (who stop at nothing to suppress the free expression of their people if it challenges the elite or the status quo) do nothing to address what they state, "offends Islam."

    As for exportation.....Islamic terrorist organizations are famous for launching attacks upon the innocent in peaceful events like the Olympics to foriegn military installations like a U.S. Air Force base to foriegn diplomatic structures like embassies. Something as simple as an offensive cartoon will incite the masses into riots, destruction, and murder.

    For the Middle East, Islam, as an organizing tool, has failed. The oppressive and brutal prescriptions placed upon Muslims by other Muslims have resulted in exactly what we see today. We own our small part of the blame. Europe owns more. But Muslims are ultimately and overwhelmingly responsible for what has happened to them.

    These are absolute truths. They cannot be denied and they cannot be argued against. One can state that a "very, very, very small portion of the entire Muslim population" is the problem, but all that does is ignore everything else going on, which is far larger than a lone terrorist who is merely acting as the mouthy piece to a larger issue facing us. You think this one jerk off at Fort Hood would be an issue were the Middle East not such a wreck of Muslim madness?

    This Fort Hood event is a symptom of somehitng far greater. As was 9/11 and any other event that speaks for the troubled Middle East. Talking about a Christian civlization that produces...what exactly in the 21st century?...only encourages the growth of what already is an enormously complex problem.

    But you are correct about it being a Middle Eastern thing and less of a Muslim thing...and I can offer plenty of evidence to prove my (and your) argument. But the reality and damaging truth is that the vast and overwhelming make up of the Middle East is......Muslim.
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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by rogerredy View Post
    Except when its jews (whoops, I meant to type "zionists") are the victims, because THEN it's well.....but....but.....
    I have no idea what you're trying to say here.

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    I never said that. But if you are proclaiming there isn't a large population of Muslims that do sympathize with the terrorists you are ****ing nuts.
    How many is large? Earlier you said most. That was obviously ****ing false, so how about you put up an actual number? ****, you can even throw out a range - 5%, 10%, 30%...what is it?

    hahahhaha What do you think they are going to say? Praise Allah?

    I go by their deeds not their words. You should try it.
    And I haven't seen CAIR storm any military bases lately, so I'm not going to accuse them of being terrorists like you're so eager to do.
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    I am so very sad about this and cannot even think about getting into some spat on the things being said
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