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12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

I just learned that the FBI had been tracking this guy for 6 months under suspicions of links to terrorists.
 
Jerry said:
I just learned that the FBI had been tracking this guy for 6 months under suspicions of links to terrorists.
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Gotta linky?
 
If the best people can do is bring up Tim Mcveigh its pretty desperate.This is terrible and i do feel for other muslim soldiers who have no intent like this who will no doubt be feeling very shunned today.However will people stop this false equivalence with who is most likely to do this kind of thing.
 
I heard the same thing. I suspect the FBI could not act on the info they had because the current administration had there hands tied.
 
Around 300 soldiers had assembled at the Soldier Readiness Center on the base, where they were to have inoculations before being sent to Afghanistan, when Hasan, dressed in his military uniform, entered at 1.30pm and opened fire at close range with two privately-owned handguns.

None of the soldiers were armed and some barricaded themselves into rooms off the main hall of the building while Hasan repeatedly reloaded his weapons and fired indiscriminately for 10 minutes, killing 12 soldiers and a civilian.

Survivors described how Hasan had "a very calm and measured approach" as he fired scores of rounds. Lt Gen Bob Cone, the base commander, said one soldier had told him "I made the mistake of moving and I was shot again". Others "would scramble to the ground and help each other out", he added.

Officer Munley and a colleague were on the scene three minutes after the first shots were fired, but it took several more minutes before they could stop Hasan as he carried on firing.

Once the gunman had been brought down, soldiers rushed to treat their comrades by ripping up their uniforms into makeshift bandages.
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I guess that answers the question of whether he reloaded.
 
Navy Pride said:
I guess what I am saying is if I was in the Army in Iraq and in a FOX Hole I am not sure I would want some with the name of Hassan or Obama having my back...............
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See this is the exact mentallity and rehetoric that causes such stress within the military and our troops.

The teabag message.
 
goldendog said:
See this is the exact mentallity and rehetoric that causes such stress within the military and our troops.

The teabag message.
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Except this guy was never deployed anywhere.
 
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Navy Pride said:
I guess what I am saying is if I was in the Army in Iraq and in a FOX Hole I am not sure I would want some with the name of Hassan or Obama having my back...............
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I appreciate your honesty....but sadly I think you are misguided and do a lot of disservice to many men and women who serve honorably and don't deserve to be treated in that manner.
 
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As if that even matters. Ideology is ideology, regardless of whether or not it's religion or free state or social movements.
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Its what the war in Iran and Afghanistan is all about.............Radical Islam wants us to convert or they will kill us..........To them we are the infidel..What part of that do you not understand?????
 
goldendog said:
See this is the exact mentallity and rehetoric that causes such stress within the military and our troops.

The teabag message.
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I guess it would not bother you huh?:roll:
 
Just like one of my most favorite women in the world, spent a large part of her childhood in an interment camp. She is strongly pro-US....yet we treated her as if she were the enemy. She harbors no ill-will. I'm not sure that I would be so forgiving.
 
mikhail said:
Except this guy was never deployed anywhere.
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He was an officer in the US military..He was deployed for years to Walter Reed dealing with the most severe cases of PTSD and the injuries that come with it.

For somebody to make Muslim comments about the President of the United States in this thread in regards to troops being able to trust him.....should get them threadbanned at minimum.

It is just uncalled for.
 
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Whenever I hear this kind of stuff it makes me really sad. I have a good friend who is Lebanese who is in Iraq for the third time. It makes me really sad to think that his fellow soldiers might turn their back on him just because he is Arab American.....BTW his name is Walid.
 
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disneydude said:
I appreciate your honesty....but sadly I think you are misguided and do a lot of disservice to many men and women who serve honorably and don't deserve to be treated in that manner.
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Maybe but when your in a fox hole you should just have to worry about the enemy in front of you not your comrades behind you........Its easy to say you would have not any doubts but if the actual incident came to pass it might be a different matter...........

I think about those 43 unarmed people gunned down yesterday...They might have felt just like you the day before................
 
Navy Pride said:
Maybe but when your in a fox hole you should just have to worry about the enemy in front of you not your comrades behind you........Its easy to say you would have not any doubts but if the actual incident came to pass it might be a different matter...........

I think about those 43 unarmed people gunned down yesterday...They might have felt just like you the day before................
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Why are you so willing to turn your back on the good men and women of the military so quickly. I just cannot understand it.
 
disneydude said:
Just like one of my most favorite women in the world, spent a large part of her childhood in an interment camp. She is strongly pro-US....yet we treated her as if she were the enemy. She harbors no ill-will. I'm not sure that I would be so forgiving.
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Whole different ball game my friend and you know it...........
 
Navy Pride said:
Whole different ball game my friend and you know it...........
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Sorry Navy....but now you are getting offensive. I would think that someone who professes to be such a supporter of the military would not do such a disservice to the men and women who wear the uniform.
I had a little more respect for you....that however is fading fast.

My friend and many like him are just as freedom-loving American as anyone else. I guess you are a cafeteria-supporter of the military.

So should my friend and those like him be discharge honorably or dishonorably?
 
disneydude said:
Whenever I hear this kind of stuff it makes me really sad. I have a good friend who is Lebanese who is in Iraq for the third time. It makes me really sad to think that his fellow soldiers might turn their back on him just because he is Arab American.....BTW his name is Walid.
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You got it backwards my friend.............American soldiers are not killing Moslem American soldiers............Its the opposite...............
 
Navy Pride said:
You got it backwards my friend.............American soldiers are not killing Moslem American soldiers............Its the opposite...............
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So you would not serve with my friend who has served three times in Iraq.

Should he be discharged honorably or dishonorably in your opinion?
 
disneydude said:
Sorry Navy....but now you are getting offensive. I would think that someone who professes to be such a supporter of the military would not do such a disservice to the men and women who wear the uniform.
I had a little more respect for you....that however is fading fast.

My friend and many like him are just as freedom-loving American as anyone else. I guess you are a cafeteria-supporter of the military.

So should my friend and those like him be discharge honorably or dishonorably?
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I think he's saying that the only soldiers worth trusting are name Joe, Frank, Bob or Elmer.
Any other honorable soldiers with weird names or religions are likely to shoot him in the back.
 
disneydude said:
Why are you so willing to turn your back on the good men and women of the military so quickly. I just cannot understand it.
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That is a good one coming from a draft dodger like you DD........@1 years I was in that military and would have given my life for those servicemen........


Bad place to go DD..............
 
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