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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    And what are you basing your claim that this is "obvious and predictable" on?
    That a small percentage of Muslims will act on their heartfelt sentiments.

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    Most Jews sympathize with Israel, most Muslims identify with their coreligionists. People have their allegiances.
    And this is the crux. Something as simple as this appears too complex for some people who need a reasonable excuse for why some things happen. The rational leap is to declare that the only possibilities that make sense are that....

    1) He didn't want to deploy so he "broke."

    2) He developed PTSD from helping people from PTSD.

    And just wait. Soon the media will investigat ehis life and report every little detail that you and I have endured just fine and explain how that was what drove him. 8 years after 9/11 and people still need a rational understanding for why irrational acts occur.

    Usually, it is the athiest or those without religious background that have trouble coming to terms with what we have been facing for so long. The sad truth is that it is the religious in all cultures that understand best how easy it is for men to destroy, maim, and slaughter in the name of God or over what he feels is threatening his very soul. There's a lot of Catholics out there that "understood" the IRA. There are a lot of Muslims out there that "understand" the angers in the ME. This jack-ass, like the jack-ass durng the Gulf War, had enough of our "war against Muslims."
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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    I alway thougt it would have been a good idea to put these people in internment camps after 9-11 like we did the Japs who my dad fought against in the 24th Infantry in WW2. We have all these new facilities that are being erected across America that would be ideal. Once these people are cataloged and processed we could determine which ones are fit for living in the U.S. and the rest can be deported. We also did this type of thing to mexican illegals in America approved by President Eisenhower called "Operation Wetback" and it worked. They were then deported deep into Mexico by ships.


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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Well, the bottom line is, if this dude didn't want to deploy, the should have cashiered his ass and sent him home. Problem solved.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by The silenced majority View Post
    The rot of Political Correctness is why nightly news stories accross the country sound like this...

    A man commited (insert crime here) today...
    Quote Originally Posted by GySgt View Post
    And this is the crux. Something as simple as this appears too complex for some people who need a reasonable excuse for why some things happen. The rational leap is to declare that the only possibilities that make sense are that....

    1) He didn't want to deploy so he "broke."

    2) He developed PTSD from helping people from PTSD.

    And just wait. Soon the media will investigat ehis life and report every little detail that you and I have endured just fine and explain how that was what drove him. 8 years after 9/11 and people still need a rational understanding for why irrational acts occur.

    Usually, it is the athiest or those without religious background that have trouble coming to terms with what we have been facing for so long. The sad truth is that it is the religious in all cultures that understand best how easy it is for men to destroy, maim, and slaughter in the name of God or over what he feels is threatening his very soul. There's a lot of Catholics out there that "understood" the IRA. There are a lot of Muslims out there that "understand" the angers in the ME.
    I do think its likely that his religious views ended up driving him to do this, but I'm not going to make broad line declarations of that as fact, or start using that ASSUMPTION to immediately start trying to make political points calling for a "pure bred" military or internment of Muslims or other sort of things. Perhaps when concretes facts come out and we're not in the immediate heat of the moment I'll start thinking about the political, militaristic, and social ramifications of this but I'm not going to take this time now to manipulate and use the deaths of these soldiers to push a political agenda based on nothing beyond near baseless assumptions at this point like some in this thread are doing.

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Religiously/politically motivated Muslim...or disgruntled soldier? Nothing matters now because he has an Arab name, and the Alabama trailer park residents who know nothing more than "raghead = bad" have likely made up what passes for their minds.

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    That a small percentage of Muslims will act on their heartfelt sentiments.
    If I remember correctly one could make the same assumptions about a small percentage of Christians who reacted on their heartfelt sentiments and lynched a government cencus worker from a tree in Kentucky...

    With no proof all you can do is speculate...it doesn't help.

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    The Shooter is still alive...just reported on news conference.

    Amazing.

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Probably something like this would have happened with the Japanese in WW2. I love the Japanese people, btw. But there was a fanaticism and loyalty amongst them to their emperor that was very strong at the time. Those were less politically correct times, that is very true.

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    My the irresponsibility of the MSM for reporting the shooter dead when he actually is alive and in stable condition.

    Alright. Everybody booooooooooo at the count of three...

    1...

    2...

    yeah right.

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