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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by goldendog View Post
    So are you saying he only gets what they offer and he could not have requested special training aside from regular weapons training?
    His cousin was interviewed by Shep Smith and he said his cousin (the shooter) was so non-violent that he didn't like shooting on the range.

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I was at Fort Hood, twice during the 90's and I never saw it as notoriously violent place.
    Oh c'mon now. You know Fort Hood and Brag have a reputation for having gang and thug like activity in the military ranks.

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    I suspect he had a psychotic break.
    I believe we're going to find out within the next few days that the "two others" thought to be involved were not, in fact.

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by GySgt View Post
    Oh c'mon now. You know Fort Hood and Brag have a reputation for having gang and thug like activity in the military ranks.
    It would appear so:

    Gang Activity in the U.S. Military

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    He was openly griping out being deployed to Iraq and it has been reported that it was his greatest fear. He treated maimed and mentally injured soldiers...He in many was starting to fit this profile.

    [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscientious_objector]Conscientious objector - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]


    A conscientious objector (CO) is an individual who, on religious, moral or ethical grounds, refuses to participate as a combatant in war or, in some cases, to take any role that would support a combatant organization armed forces. In the first case, conscientious objectors may be willing to accept non-combatant roles during conscription or military service. In the second case, the CO objects to any role within armed forces and results in complete rejection of conscription or military service and, in some countries, assignment to an alternative civilian service as a substitute for conscription or military service. Some conscientious objectors may consider themselves pacifist, non-resistant, or antimilitarist.


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    He fits many of this criteria...for instance he was in a non-combative role being a doctor threating injured soldiers.

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    shep smith just interviewed a fort hood acquaintance of the shooter, colonel terry lee

    col lee says that hasan said in his presence repeatedly things like, "muslims have a right to rise up and attack americans"

    col lee says hasan was "happy about it," referring to the shooting of the two army recruiters by abdulhakim muhammad in little rock in june

    col lee says he'd heard thru third party hearsay that hasan talked about strapping on bombs and blowing up people in times square

    hasan got in lots of arguments with fellow fort hood officers, lee told shep

    there would be lots of name calling back and forth, and hasan would sometimes be called a "raghead"

    when hasan said certain things to lee that the colonel found offensive, lee says he told hasan, "you need to lock it up"

    hasan, according to lee, wanted obama to pull troops out of iraq and afghanistan and turned very negative when the draw down wasn't happening

    hasan was becoming "more and more agitated and frustrated"

    hasan's "views were well known"

    he has been "investigated by the military"

    he was transferred to hood from walter reed, and lee very much, very much wants to know why

    what happened concerning hasan at walter reed? lee directly said he suspects there must have been an incident or incidents

    as for working with others, lee said hasan was very much a "loner to himself," lee said those exact words twice

    that's all i heard

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by bowerbird View Post
    So why is it automatically religious hatred and not PTSD
    Because PTSD is largely a copout for most that claim PTSD...and the murder of fellow soldiers, who have experienced the same crap you have, is not a result.

    This was absolutely personal and religiously motivated. We will hear all about how he had fmaily problems or a bad childhood or that he had a bad Fruit Roll-Up for breakfast. But in the end, he turned on his fellow soldiers. He didn't climb a bell tower and start capping civilians. He didn't lock himself in a hotel room and kill himself. He chose to slaughter U.S. soldiers.

    Logic dictates far greater than politically correct madness.

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by The silenced majority View Post
    Anyone else a little suspect of the loyalties of Muslims & Muslim converts in the US military?

    Or am I just setting the table for another user to make an ultra-PC statement & gain a boatload of PC thank you's for it?
    This is not the first time that a Muslim convert has killed his fellow soldiers...I remember when the Sgt Ankbar rolled a grenade in a tent full of army officers and killed most of them...That was in Iraq............

    I am sure that the vast majority of American Muslims are honorable, peace loving Americans but the question begs to be asked how can you tell a loyal American from a radical Muslim who wants to kill us?
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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Again, the two individuals who were detained have since been released. It seems unlikely that they were involved.
    This dude had two pistols, that's a max of 34 rounds and he scored 31 hits, 12 were kill shots. You know how unlikely that is, even for a world class shooter?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    My heart goes out to the families.

    There's really nothing more to say.

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