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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I think it's always been easier to hate/kill the people who are near you than the far away stranger.
    Senseless, how can you say its easier to hate the people you live with, unless they are treating you badly ..
    But since we don't know how its going there, Media shows how its going there, or God forbid, fake Media I mean .

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahmed Shaheen View Post
    So the point is how me as Muslim and Middle Eastern got no hatred to thousands miles away people while someone lives with them and wants them dead. There must be something wrong either with Americans or with the teachings they get over there , and I don't support the two opinions

    The point is not that you as an individual either hate or bear any animosity toward those who are not in your immediate realm of daily existence. One would have to know your background to make that determination. What schools you attended, what Mosque you attend, who your influences are concerning western culture, and Israel are.

    Are there not those Muslims even here in America that have committed crimes of murder against their own family members for what they consider becoming "too westernized"?

    The true point is the level of radicalization and how far you as a person are willing to carry a message of hate, and dominance over those who don't carry your particular beliefs.


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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    So? That doesn't make him a murderous jihadist. That makes him a Jehovah's Witness or a Christian evangelist.

    His emotional break down has more to do with this mass murder than his religion does.
    This wasn't an emotional breakdown it was a jihadist attack. Two of the 9-11 hijackers attended the same Mosque as Nidal under the tutelage of the radical wahhabist Imam Anwar al Awlaki who himself was under investigation by the FBI before he fled to Yemen. This is the same Imam who has since praised the fort hood attacker as a "a hero," and that he "is a man of conscience who could not bear living the contradiction of being a Muslim and serving in an army that is fighting against his own people." And that's not all folks, this is the very same Imam who Nidal emailed up to 20 times before the deadly attack.

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    I don't think it sounds insane at all. It makes perfect sense. This is not an open and shut case of Islamic terror.
    You're joking right? I guess it's just a coincidence that he glorified and justified suicide bombings. That he said that Muslims should murder Americans. That he stood up and yelled the Jihadist battle cry of Allahu Akbar before he began opening fire. I guess, also, that it's just a coincidence that two of the 9-11 hijackers attended the same Mosque as Nidal under the tutelage of the radical wahhabist Imam Anwar al Awlaki who himself was under investigation by the FBI before he fled to Yemen. This is the same Imam who has since praised the fort hood attacker as a "a hero," and that he "is a man of conscience who could not bear living the contradiction of being a Muslim and serving in an army that is fighting against his own people." And that's not all folks, this is the very same Imam who Nidal emailed up to 20 times before the deadly attack.

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    You're joking right? I guess it's just a coincidence that he glorified and justified suicide bombings. That he said that Muslims should murder Americans. That he stood up and yelled the Jihadist battle cry of Allahu Akbar before he began opening fire. I guess, also, that it's just a coincidence that two of the 9-11 hijackers attended the same Mosque as Nidal under the tutelage of the radical wahhabist Imam Anwar al Awlaki who himself was under investigation by the FBI before he fled to Yemen. This is the same Imam who has since praised the fort hood attacker as a "a hero," and that he "is a man of conscience who could not bear living the contradiction of being a Muslim and serving in an army that is fighting against his own people." And that's not all folks, this is the very same Imam who Nidal emailed up to 20 times before the deadly attack.
    Though when you put it that way...

    A teenage kid who listens to metal, "sacrifices chickens", talks about the Devil, has all the goth regalia, talks about vampirism, etc. goes and kills someone. Does that automatically make it about their dysfunctional lifestyle? No, we have to take in ALL the evidence and make sure. While the person was most likely acting on their beliefs, We have to be sure this wasn't just a random snap in their brain, resulting from all the crazy **** they were doing/thinking.

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Who is saying "Oh, he's just a misunderstood chap" or even saying "His religion likely had nothing at all to do with this"
    Actually this view was being broadcast 24/7 initially.

    CNN is foisted upon me at work. Cannot change it either.
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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Are there not those Muslims even here in America that have committed crimes of murder against their own family members for what they consider becoming "too westernized"? j-mac
    It is all over the world j-mac.


    Muslim father orders daughter killed over short skirt


    "The father’s Muslim friends again started reproaching him for being negligent and allowing his daughter to walk around dressed like a fallen woman. They said the insult could only be washed away by blood, and introduced Gafar to a killer, who agreed to help him for around $3000."



    How petty. How senseless. She was studying to be a doctor. We all deserve what we get when we do not stand against this behavior instigated by a religion that has stagnated the growth of its people so grossly and for so long. I suspect the skirts were the final straw. Getting educated and wanting her own life had to burn them up as well. She would not submit...therefore she must die...just like the rest of us uncooperative infidels.
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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by akyron View Post
    It is all over the world j-mac.


    Muslim father orders daughter killed over short skirt


    "The fatherís Muslim friends again started reproaching him for being negligent and allowing his daughter to walk around dressed like a fallen woman. They said the insult could only be washed away by blood, and introduced Gafar to a killer, who agreed to help him for around $3000."



    How petty. How senseless. She was studying to be a doctor. We all deserve what we get when we do not stand against this behavior instigated by a religion that has stagnated the growth of its people so grossly and for so long. I suspect the skirts were the final straw. Getting educated and wanting her own life had to burn them up as well. She would not submit...therefore she must die...just like the rest of us uncooperative infidels.

    I know, it is just so damned dumb to pull the wool over, and pretend that this sort of thing doesn't happen in the supposed religion of peace. Ahmed would have us all believe that things are just roses if we would just submit.


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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I know, it is just so damned dumb to pull the wool over, and pretend that this sort of thing doesn't happen in the supposed religion of peace. Ahmed would have us all believe that things are just roses if we would just submit.


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    Yeah, that's pretty much it.

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