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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    They are showing a picture of him on msnbc right now. I don't know, he doesn't really look especially Arabic? What do you guys think, did anyone else see his pic?
    Well, he's not an American black man who adopted an Islamic name, which was everyone's first idea when his name was released.
    So, yeah, I'm assuming he's middle-eastern.
    There are many middle-easterners in the region; many of them look white and are often mistaken for white or hispanic. They're not all dark complected; they can have light hair and eyes.

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    From what I have observed (certainly not an expert opinion here), a good number of mental health professionals actually enter the profession as part of a wish to fix their own problems, but that is an endeavor which is highly difficult to pursue successfully.
    The problem with that is that it is not easy to get promoted while having mental heath issues on your record...Perhaps he was using his patients therapy as his own?

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

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    He had some comments on the vetting process and urged everyone to not jump to conclusions.....yet.

    I dont see much difference in being a nutbag and a religious nutbag.

    The results can be horrific in either case.
    Nutbag = Unibomber, Timothy McVeigh, Charles Whitman, etc.

    Religious Nutbag = Phillip II, Thomas Muntzer, Osama Bin Laden, etc.

    The difference is what is referred to as a "Practical" and an "Apocalyptic" terrorist. One can be dealt with politically and even rehabilitated. His grievances are of this world and either seeks to change it or to make a statement in the now. The other, the "Apocalyptic," also has grievances about his world, but seek more to punish or to exact revenge. His ultimate goal is to please God and to ensure a place in heaven as a good and faithful "soldier" for god. This type...the religious "nutbag"... cannot be dealt with, bartered with, or rehabilitated (thereby denying everything he believes in). The Apocalytpic types are usually in a hurry to rush on armegeddon and to meet his maker too.

    One is certainly far, far more dangerous than the other.
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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    Well, he's not an American black man who adopted an Islamic name, which was everyone's first idea when his name was released.
    So, yeah, I'm assuming he's middle-eastern.
    There are many middle-easterners in the region; many of them look white and are often mistaken for white or hispanic. They're not all dark complected; they can have light hair and eyes.

    Maybe b/c he's bald, I can't tell. My husband says, yes, like you, that he looks Arabic.


    ps - I wasn't picturing a black man, I was picturing more like a Greek man. Lots of dark, bushy hair, and olive skin

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    They are showing a picture of him on msnbc right now. I don't know, he doesn't really look especially Arabic? What do you guys think, did anyone else see his pic?
    He was a convert to Islam.

    EDIT: Reportedly.
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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    Maybe b/c he's bald, I can't tell. My husband says, yes, like you, that he looks Arabic.
    He looks Saudi...

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    They just reported that his family is from Jordan...

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    I believe Sen Hutchinson speculated that he was from Jordan.

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    He was a convert to Islam.
    I've heard this cited several times, but do you have a source?

    Other info:

    U.S. rep. McCaul says shooter had special training in shooting

    Rep. McCaul also said he's been told suspected shooter Hasan had undergone alcohol counseling.

    Fort Hood Shootings (FtHoodShootings) on Twitter

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    People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Was everyone else as un-surprised as I was when the guy turned out to have a Muslim/Mid-Eastern name?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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