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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahmed Shaheen View Post
    Neither does the laws in the most of the Islamic countries .
    Wrong. Islamic law in Iran, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan set the age of consent at 9.

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I was thinking about that last night.
    I know you usually do when it comes to me, but...forum topics?

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

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    How much excess negative baggage should we be expected to tolerate?
    It's proportional to how free you expect to claim you are.

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I agree. The problem is that they're using the teachings of Mohammed to justify their perversions. Where is the larger population of Islam to hold them accountable for this?
    True, but let me explain ..
    There is something in Islam called "Hadiith" which is a saying said by prophet directly, or indirectly like someone says : I heard/saw the prophet saying/doing ...
    Hadiith is divided into 3 parts ( Strong , Good, Weak ) according to the one who said them, or the time which was said etc .

    Hadiith is categorized in "Hadiith Committees" and there are many .
    As for me, the only committee I trust is Al-Azhar committee as for their last opinion about Niqab was no, its true because I'd never heard about any Hadiith saying that woman must wear Niqab, which means that if there is any Hadiith about Niqab, then its "weak" ..

    The same goes to Jihad rules, where all Hadiith I read says that Jihad is to fight against your "Enemies". In Quraan, the word "Enemy" is defined as the one who harms you, so its a duty to "Harm him as they harmed you" no more no less, or even forgiveness is better .

    As there are so many committees, so you must expect diversity in opinions, some are wrong, others are right .
    But one have his brain to recognize whats right, like when you tell me to bomb my self I will tell you STFU, while am hell sure that they are doing this for themselves for political reasons or whatever .

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahmed Shaheen View Post
    Neither does the laws in the most of the Islamic countries .
    Neither do the laws in the most of the Islamic countries.


    JAWOHL MEIN GRAMMATIKFÜHRER!
    Last edited by EpicDude86; 11-09-09 at 06:14 PM.

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Wrong. Islamic law in Iran, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan set the age of consent at 9.
    You heard me when I said Most, and I'm sure you don't mind for a link, right ?

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    Neither do the laws in the most of the Islamic countries.


    JAWOHL MEIN GRAMMATIKFÜHRER!

    What ?

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux
    I agree. The problem is that they're using the teachings of Mohammed to justify their perversions. Where is the larger population of Islam to hold them accountable for this?
    Exactly, where indeed. Where I may see the usual suspects on TV trying to find excuses, where are the majority of Muslims. Should the outrages of 9-11 be perpetrated by a Catholic screaming God is Great, he or she would receive international condemnation and isolation from the Church.
    It was the Austrasians, that hewed on bravely through the thick of the fight, it was they who found and cut down the Saracen King.

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahmed Shaheen View Post
    True, but let me explain ..
    There is something in Islam called "Hadiith" which is a saying said by prophet directly, or indirectly like someone says : I heard/saw the prophet saying/doing ...
    Hadiith is divided into 3 parts ( Strong , Good, Weak ) according to the one who said them, or the time which was said etc .

    Hadiith is categorized in "Hadiith Committees" and there are many .
    As for me, the only committee I trust is Al-Azhar committee as for their last opinion about Niqab was no, its true because I'd never heard about any Hadiith saying that woman must wear Niqab, which means that if there is any Hadiith about Niqab, then its "weak" ..

    The same goes to Jihad rules, where all Hadiith I read says that Jihad is to fight against your "Enemies". In Quraan, the word "Enemy" is defined as the one who harms you, so its a duty to "Harm him as they harmed you" no more no less, or even forgiveness is better .

    As there are so many committees, so you must expect diversity in opinions, some are wrong, others are right .
    But one have his brain to recognize whats right, like when you tell me to bomb my self I will tell you STFU, while am hell sure that they are doing this for themselves for political reasons or whatever .
    I learned long ago not to trust people who told partial truths, but not the whole truth. You talk about Jihad, without telling my brothers and sisters about the Greater Jihad and the Lesser Jihad. Tell us about the Lesser Jihad.

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    Why?






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    Because there is an imbalance of power in the relationship, with the patient being the more vulnerable party.
    Physician-Patient Relationship: Ethical Topic in Medicine

    What role should the physician's personal feelings and beliefs play in the physician-patient relationship?


    Occasionally, a physician may face requests for services, such as contraception or abortion, which raise a conflict for the physician. Physicians do not have to provide medical services in opposition to their personal beliefs. In addition, it is acceptable to have a nonjudgmental discussion with a patient regarding her need for the service, and to ensure that the patient understands alternative forms of therapy. However, it is never appropriate to proselytize. While the physician may decline to provide the requested service, the patient must be treated as a respected, autonomous individual. Where appropriate, the patient should be provided with resources about how to obtain the desired service.

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