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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    Apparently he also liked drinking beer and visiting strip clubs when his fellow soldiers weren't looking. Sounding more and more like many self proclaimed Christians I know. And also somebody who was even more conflicted than some us originally thought.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...trip-club.html

    Anyway, he's awake and talking. We'll see what comes next.
    This fits into what the 911 guys did as well. From what I read about that they knew they were going to Paradise FOR SURE, so they were able to go against their religion in their waning days. It's whacky to us, but apparently condoned by the extremists. Another whacky contradiction is that most Arab males condemn homosexuality between two grown males, but not between two adolescents, or an adult and an adolescent.

    Too much of what is O.K. according to some Islamists (such as honor killing) is a cultural tradition, not condoned by the Koran.

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I totally agree. I think that what people are really trying to point to when they say that Mohammed was a child molester is that Islamic law TODAY excuses child molestation.
    Yes, he'd married a Child, but did he told us to do ?
    I don't think its wise to compare ourselves to prophets, Prophets got their own reasons of course .
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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahmed Shaheen View Post
    Yes, he'd married a Child, but did he told us to do ?
    Apparently.
    I married Iranian girls before their execution | Iranian - Iran News | Jerusalem Post

    Tell me, what is the age of consent for young women in Iran, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan?

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    I can't find the exact text of my earlier point about this, but we rational saints find it a tad worrisome that there's more agony about the ages of participants than the involuntary nature of marriages there. It's safe to assume that a rudimentarily consensual marriage between a 14-15 year old and an older man is probably preferable to a blatantly coercive one between a 24-25 year old and an older man.

    EDIT: I've also never been impressed by primarily Christian attacks on Mohammed, considering that if traditional Hebrew and Nazarene customs were practiced in the case of Jesus's parents, Mary was likely to be about twelve to thirteen years old when she married Joseph.
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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Do you see Christianity encoding marriages at 12 & 13 into law in the U.S.?

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Apparently.
    I married Iranian girls before their execution | Iranian - Iran News | Jerusalem Post

    Tell me, what is the age of consent for young women in Iran, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan?
    In the Islamic Republic it is illegal to execute a young woman, regardless of her crime, if she is a virgin, he explained. Therefore a "wedding" ceremony is conducted the night before the execution: The young girl is forced to have sexual intercourse with a prison guard - essentially raped by her "husband."

    Really laughed when I read this ..
    That can be a good joke somewhere .
    I still can't recognize how this people live, they are making their own verdicts for their own benifit, the worse, involving religion in this mess :S

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Do you see Christianity encoding marriages at 12 & 13 into law in the U.S.?
    Neither does the laws in the most of the Islamic countries .

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Do you see Christianity encoding marriages at 12 & 13 into law in the U.S.?
    Certainly; that was accepted colonial and post-colonial settlement practice for many years. In reality, there seems to be little connection to specific religious tenets so much as the degree of influence any repressive theological doctrine has on a society, whether it be those of Christianity or Islam. Since the influence of Christianity has been somewhat reduced here, societal customs that were at least partially associated with it have also eroded. But really...there's that sense of nostalgia in being back on the topic where you first said I was Goldilocks's wolf, ain't there?

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahmed Shaheen View Post

    Really laughed when I read this ..
    That can be a good joke somewhere .
    I still can't recognize how this people live, they are making their own verdicts for their own benifit, the worse, involving religion in this mess :S
    I agree. The problem is that they're using the teachings of Mohammed to justify their perversions. Where is the larger population of Islam to hold them accountable for this?

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    Re: 12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnapostate View Post
    But really...there's that sense of nostalgia in being back on the topic where you first said I was Goldilocks's wolf, ain't there?
    I was thinking about that last night. Hee! You AND Wind, for that matter.

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