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    Inmates come to guard's aid in jail attack

    A 24 year old inmate at a Florida jail decided that he wanted to kill a 65 year old guard. Imagine his surprise, when other inmates jumped in....... On the side of the guard.

    Goes to show that not all inmates in jails are scumbags, just some of them. I believe that the inmates who saved the guard's life should have their sentences reduced as a reward. I also believe that the punk who tried to kill him needs a VERY long sentence to reflect on what he tried to do.

    Article is here.
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    Re: Inmates come to guard's aid in jail attack

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    A 24 year old inmate at a Florida jail decided that he wanted to kill a 65 year old guard. Imagine his surprise, when other inmates jumped in....... On the side of the guard.

    Goes to show that not all inmates in jails are scumbags, just some of them. I believe that the inmates who saved the guard's life should have their sentences reduced as a reward. I also believe that the punk who tried to kill him needs a VERY long sentence to reflect on what he tried to do.

    Article is here.
    Well, probably not a reduction on their sentences...but perhaps a swine flu shot?
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    Re: Inmates come to guard's aid in jail attack

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    A 24 year old inmate at a Florida jail decided that he wanted to kill a 65 year old guard. Imagine his surprise, when other inmates jumped in....... On the side of the guard.
    This happens more frequently than the MSM reports.

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    Re: Inmates come to guard's aid in jail attack

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Goes to show that not all inmates in jails are scumbags. . ..

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    I can attest that many are not.

    I used to visit one of my best friends regularly in prison. His family couldn't ever seem to find the time.

    The problem as I see it, is that incarceration as we practice it, tends to allow people to avoid improving themselves while imprisoned.

    Partly, this is because prison is not a particularly unpleasant place for people who belive and have been taught that they have no freedom anyway. In prison, the walls are simply visible in their outlook.

    Were I King of the World, I'd make every felony conviction a life sentence at hard labor. The only people released, first to parole, then to general freedom would be those that could convince a series of panels made up largely of productive taxpayers, that there was some value to Society if they were to be released.

    The idea here being that maybe then, the cleverer inmates would seek a useful education in prison, develop marketable skills and behave in a manner suggestive of civilized human beings.

    The rest could just make useful, inexpensive products for the rest of us, and grow their own food.
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    Re: Inmates come to guard's aid in jail attack

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    Were I King of the World, I'd make every felony conviction a life sentence at hard labor. The only people released, first to parole, then to general freedom would be those that could convince a series of panels made up largely of productive taxpayers, that there was some value to Society if they were to be released.

    The idea here being that maybe then, the cleverer inmates would seek a useful education in prison, develop marketable skills and behave in a manner suggestive of civilized human beings.

    The rest could just make useful, inexpensive products for the rest of us, and grow their own food.
    I could get behind this program, as long as the programs to offer the education and the marketable skills were offered along with social reeducation. Have no problem with requiring the inmates to earn their keep as long as the situation isn't allowed to degenerate into making corruption profitable.

    Just establish that all prison sentences are indefinite, for the amount of time it requires the inmate to get himself right and convince the parole board that he's ready to play ball in a civilized society.

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    Re: Inmates come to guard's aid in jail attack

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    A 24 year old inmate at a Florida jail decided that he wanted to kill a 65 year old guard. Imagine his surprise, when other inmates jumped in....... On the side of the guard.

    Goes to show that not all inmates in jails are scumbags, just some of them. I believe that the inmates who saved the guard's life should have their sentences reduced as a reward. I also believe that the punk who tried to kill him needs a VERY long sentence to reflect on what he tried to do.

    Article is here.
    How about some prison justice?
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    Re: Inmates come to guard's aid in jail attack

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    I can attest that many are not.

    I used to visit one of my best friends regularly in prison. His family couldn't ever seem to find the time.

    The problem as I see it, is that incarceration as we practice it, tends to allow people to avoid improving themselves while imprisoned.

    Partly, this is because prison is not a particularly unpleasant place for people who belive and have been taught that they have no freedom anyway. In prison, the walls are simply visible in their outlook.

    Were I King of the World, I'd make every felony conviction a life sentence at hard labor. The only people released, first to parole, then to general freedom would be those that could convince a series of panels made up largely of productive taxpayers, that there was some value to Society if they were to be released.

    The idea here being that maybe then, the cleverer inmates would seek a useful education in prison, develop marketable skills and behave in a manner suggestive of civilized human beings.

    The rest could just make useful, inexpensive products for the rest of us, and grow their own food.
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    Re: Inmates come to guard's aid in jail attack

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    A 24 year old inmate at a Florida jail decided that he wanted to kill a 65 year old guard. Imagine his surprise, when other inmates jumped in....... On the side of the guard.

    Goes to show that not all inmates in jails are scumbags, just some of them. I believe that the inmates who saved the guard's life should have their sentences reduced as a reward. I also believe that the punk who tried to kill him needs a VERY long sentence to reflect on what he tried to do.

    Article is here.
    There are honorable people everywhere, in every situation, as well as dishonorable people.
    In crisis situations, I've received help from the most unlikely sources too often to believe differently. It's why I dislike any sort of stereotyping.

    As stated in the article, the inmates' response points to how humanely they are treated in that jail.
    I'd like to believe they might've reacted the same way, regardless of the treatment they'd received.
    There is no excuse for a strong young man ambushing and strangling an old man; most inmates- like most everyone else- are repelled by such behavior.

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    Re: Inmates come to guard's aid in jail attack

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    A 24 year old inmate at a Florida jail decided that he wanted to kill a 65 year old guard. Imagine his surprise, when other inmates jumped in....... On the side of the guard.

    Goes to show that not all inmates in jails are scumbags, just some of them. I believe that the inmates who saved the guard's life should have their sentences reduced as a reward. I also believe that the punk who tried to kill him needs a VERY long sentence to reflect on what he tried to do.

    Article is here.
    This was a county jail, not a major prison. I think most of the people in there are basically decent people who just did something stupid.
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    Re: Inmates come to guard's aid in jail attack

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    This was a county jail, not a major prison. I think most of the people in there are basically decent people who did something stupid. I'm not sure the same thing would have happened in a penitentiary.
    It probably wouldn't have had an opportunity to happen in a penitentiary.
    In a situation like that, security is heightened and guards are at a much further remove from inmates; I believe the human factor breaks down in such institutional settings. There is progressive dehumanization on both sides (it's possible the guards in a penitentiary wouldn't scurry to intervene if they saw an elderly inmate being attacked- or having a heart attack, or choking on a chicken bone, for that matter- either).
    In less institutional situations, people come to have names and faces.
    In more institutional settings, they tend to lose them.

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