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Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

Yeah she was gay for 30 years while she was happily married and raised 3 sons................


No I could not do that but that does not mean someone else couldn't.........

That makes no sense. If sexual orientation is something that is changeable....why could you not change yours and others can.
 
That makes no sense. If sexual orientation is something that is changeable....why could you not change yours and others can.

Everyone is different.............I am done with you now.........you have successfully hijacked the thread...........
 
Yeah she was gay for 30 years while she was happily married and raised 3 sons................


No I could not do that but that does not mean someone else couldn't.........

I hate to break it to you Navy....but history is full of people who are gay who have led straight lives, raised families....due to fear of societal disapproval.
For Gods' sakes....look at Larry Craig. Are you seriously going to say that he is straight?
 
Everyone is different.............I am done with you now.........you have successfully hijacked the thread...........

I didn't hijack anything Navy....the whole discussion started with YOUR thread....remember?
 
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHCrOtSzIBg"]YouTube- If Larry Craig were Gay[/ame]

This is cute....you should watch it.
 
Sounds like they employed the same deceitful tactics that they used here in California.
Somehow people justify their lies if they believe that their cause is just.
Shame on you people.

Tactics or not, the people of Maine voted and we now have the result. If the Federal government had demanded it, then that would have been a different story. As it is, the Constitution was followed, per the 10th Amendment. As a gay rights supporter, I do not like the decision, but I don't live in Maine, so it's none of my damn business, one way or the other.
 
You ain't her constituent, so you don't get a vote.

Read the First Amendmentn again.

I have every right to call the....never mind, I've got the right to say it, but this is a privately run board with rules I've agreed to not violate, so that right is curtailed here in a manner that I don't disagree with.

She does a good job for Maine.

We should keep that in mind, here in California, and start convincing our Congress things and Senators that no state should be more federal tax dollars than they've sent to Washington, and that California should start collecting the surplus we've wasted on the rest of the nation over the years.
 
I don't live in Maine either, Dana....however I truly believe that where there is injustice done to one of my brothers, it is done to me.
This isn't a states issue....its a basic human rights issue.
 
Read the First Amendmentn again.

I have every right to call the....never mind, I've got the right to say it, but this is a privately run board with rules I've agreed to not violate, so that right is curtailed here in a manner that I don't disagree with.



We should keep that in mind, here in California, and start convincing our Congress things and Senators that no state should be more federal tax dollars than they've sent to Washington, and that California should start collecting the surplus we've wasted on the rest of the nation over the years.

Look in the stimulus package, I'm sure you recouped some of your losses but they went to pet projects. Sorry California.
 
Sounds like they employed the same deceitful tactics that they used here in California.

What "deceitful" tactics? There is only one reason and I mean just one, why Proposition 8 passed in California.

Over 25% of the bigots that voted for your Messiah voted FOR Proposition 8.

If only McCain voters supported Prop 8, it would not have passed.

Y'all gots only yo'selves to blame.
 
What "deceitful" tactics? There is only one reason and I mean just one, why Proposition 8 passed in California.

Over 25% of the bigots that voted for your Messiah voted FOR Proposition 8.

If only McCain voters supported Prop 8, it would not have passed.

Y'all gots only yo'selves to blame.

Prop 8 was funded in large part by the mormon church which ran very deceitful ads that said that children would be required to be taught homosexuality and churches would have to marry gay people.
The ads were full of lies and downright despicable.
I guess that Mormons feel that it is ok to lie....if you believe that your cause is just.
Before the ads, the prop was failing by double digits. The mormons essentially scared people into voting for the proposition.
 
Prop 8 was funded in large part by the mormon church which ran very deceitful ads that said that children would be required to be taught homosexuality and churches would have to marry gay people.
The ads were full of lies and downright despicable.
I guess that Mormons feel that it is ok to lie....if you believe that your cause is just.
Before the ads, the prop was failing by double digits. The mormons essentially scared people into voting for the proposition.

Look out! The Mormons are coming!

If it's what they believe, then are they lying? or do you just disagree with them?
 
Look out! The Mormons are coming!

You jest.....but seriously. I lived in Utah for many years. The Mormons have a LOT of money and aren't afraid to lie and swindle to achieve their goals.
 
If your interested n that start a thread or poll on the subject......This thread is about Maine voters rejecting gay marriage...........

So then why did you state that a gay person could be come straight in this thread. Was that off topic?

You told some rather foolish story to substantiate your allegation that people can change. I think people can make a choice. I have a friend who was sexually molested by her father. She was raped in college and got pregnant (she did not abort--she put him up for adoption). She got married, and her husband left her. She was so angry with how men had treated her, that she decided she would date women only. Is she gay? Nope. Her instincts were always to be attracted to men. She has chosen to be with women only due to her past experiences with men.
 
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You jest.....but seriously. I lived in Utah for many years. The Mormons have a LOT of money and aren't afraid to lie and swindle to achieve their goals.


Same could be said for lots of other groups. And once again, if you truly believe in something, is it lying or just misguided faith?
 
Same could be said for lots of other groups. And once again, if you truly believe in something, is it lying or just misguided faith?

Agreed. As for the second part. Lying is lying. There is no possible way that the Mormons actually believed the garbage the they put in the ad.
They might truly believe in their cause...and justified their actions based on that....but that's what I mean when I say that just because you may believe that your cause is just, it doesn't justify lying.
 
-Homosexuality will be taught in schools if same sex marriage is allowed.
-Religious liberties will be under attack if same sex marriage is allowed.

The first is certainly true. They already teach that crap to young children. Heather Has Too Mommies Who Sleep With Daddy's New Roomate is a compilation of two books that have been snuck into elementary schools already.

The second probably isn't.

Your refusal to address the fact that Proposition 8 passed ONLY because substantial numbers of the bigots voting for their Messiah voted for the proposition also.

Can't blame the Right, the Right didn't have the votes to pass it. Without the Left, it would have failed.
 
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Prop 8 was funded in large part by the mormon church which ran very deceitful ads that said that children would be required to be taught homosexuality and churches would have to marry gay people.
The ads were full of lies and downright despicable.
I guess that Mormons feel that it is ok to lie....if you believe that your cause is just.
Before the ads, the prop was failing by double digits. The mormons essentially scared people into voting for the proposition.

What does "taught homosexuality" mean?

So what you're saying is that people stupid enough to vote for The Messiah were also stupid enough to listen to the Mormon church? They weren't intelligent enough to develop their own bigotries, they only became anti-gay by watching commercials on TV?

You too refused to address the fact that Proposition 8 was pushed over the top by a large percentage of Messiah voters.
 
The first is certainly true. They already teach that crap to young children. Heather Has Too Mommies Who Sleep With Daddy's New Roomate is a compilation of two books that have been snuck into elementary schools already.

If it has already "snuck" into schools, then what does it have to do with gay marriage? Why would a parent in a state with gay marriage have any less say about what their child was taught in school than a parent in a state without gay marriage?

It is deceitful because what children are taught in schools has absolutely nothing to do with gay marriage.
 
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If it has already "snuck" into schools, then what does it have to do with gay marriage?

Beats the crap out of me, I didn't waste my time listening to those ads. My mind was made up when I read the Proposition.

That's what voters are supposed to do.

It shouldn't be taught in schools - not to young pre-pubescent children, not for any reason whatsoever. Their innocence should be protected like the crown jewels.

Why would a parent in a state with gay marriage have any less say about what their child was taught in school than a parent in a state without gay marriage?

You should start trying to restrict your questions to subjects included in the posts you're responding to.
 
Agreed. As for the second part. Lying is lying. There is no possible way that the Mormons actually believed the garbage the they put in the ad.
They might truly believe in their cause...and justified their actions based on that....but that's what I mean when I say that just because you may believe that your cause is just, it doesn't justify lying.

No way huh? If you believe something long enough, it becomes truth.
 
Beats the crap out of me, I didn't waste my time listening to those ads. My mind was made up when I read the Proposition.

That's what voters are supposed to do.

It shouldn't be taught in schools - not to young pre-pubescent children, not for any reason whatsoever. Their innocence should be protected like the crown jewels.

You should start trying to restrict your questions to subjects included in the posts you're responding to.

You made the argument that the first tactic was not deceitful. I was simply proving that it was. If you are going to claim that homosexuality will be taught in schools if same sex marriage is allowed, then you should probably be able to back it up.
 
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