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Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

I can marry a black gal. Use to be that was that true under the law and at one time both of us could be sentenced to prison time.

Now considering the 14th amendment to the US Constitution why can not a woman marry a woman just like a man can marry a woman?
Because black people (race) are a protected class. Sexual orientation is not.
 
The 14th would bring into play Polygamysts and other groups into play to..........that would be fun...........

Agree'd. We can't have those disgusting Foot Fetishists getting married! THE VERY STRUCTURE OF SOCIETY AND MORALITY DEPENDS ON IT!
 
Until the federal government is able to garner enough support to act upon it, gay marriage advocates need to understand that their agenda needs to be approved by the general public. Yes, it sucks, but we need to accept the reality. People shouldn't burn the streets every time this happens. Time will make this happen, thankfully.
 
Until the federal government is able to garner enough support to act upon it, gay marriage advocates need to understand that their agenda needs to be approved by the general public. Yes, it sucks, but we need to accept the reality. People shouldn't burn the streets every time this happens. Time will make this happen, thankfully.

What?! Life isn't fair?! THAT'S PREPOSTEROUS! SOMEONE CALL THE LIBERALS IN HERE! AND TELL EM TO BRING THE ACLU!
 
I am not going to fall into your trap of hijacking the thread DD..We have been over thia a dozen tmes........

Navy....you are the one who brought it up.....why don't you man-up and answer the question:

If you believe that sexual orientation is "changeable" are you saying that you could easily change your orientation and be attracted to men?
 
Because black people (race) are a protected class. Sexual orientation is not.

Equal protection applies to non-protected classes as well, just under a different standard of scrutiny.
It is clear that the SCOTUS will not view gays as a protected class....what is not clear is whether they would apply intermediate status (requiring the government to put forth an "important" interest in maintaining the discrimination) or standard scrutiny (requiring the government only to show a legitimate interest in maintaining the discrimination).

I think the government loses even under the lowest level of scrutiny. I fail to see any legitimate interest, let alone an important interest, that the government has in restricting marriage.
 
I am still trying to wrap my head around the fact that b/c the citizen's veto was successful, the question can't be brought again. I thought it was just a setback. Now it seems like the only way to have gay marriage allowed in Maine would be either thru state constitutional amendment, the courts, or us constitutional amendment.

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Why is it that there are some people in our society that believe that they are entitled to certain rights/privileges while believing they are somehow justified in denying those same rights and privileges to another?
 
Why is it that there are some people in our society that believe that they are entitled to certain rights/privileges while believing they are somehow justified in denying those same rights and privileges to another?

You mean like:
1) Income taxes
2) Prescription drugs
3) Citizenship
4) Medicare
5) Social security
6) Welfare

Look at all those people who are "entitled" to something others aren't.
 
Why is it that there are some people in our society that believe that they are entitled to certain rights/privileges while believing they are somehow justified in denying those same rights and privileges to another?

I personally believe in equal rights for all and believe that can be accomplished many ways without violating the definition of the sacred act of marriage..........The problem is for a few militant gays and a whole bunch of bleeding heart liberals this is not good enough because if the truth be told the real thing these radical lefties want is acceptance of their lifestyle as equal to a straight relationship...To jam it down our throats and our children's throats as a suitable alternate lifestyle and that will never happen........
 
I don't know where you get these stats at but if they make you feel good go for it...........There are states that have voted over 80% aggainst gay marriage and the lowest percent against was around 52% in La La land............If you average all the states out you will come close to 70% against...........
So? In Indiana (I believe), the govt ruled that a set of gun control laws were unconstitutional, but the people voted to overturn them.

Why are you so obsessed with gays not getting tax benefits anyway? It's not gonna stop Rev. Ted Haggart from sharing meth needles with gay hookers. Move on and get a life. Anyone who's obsessed with controlling people's personal lifes is not a real conservative, just a typical socialist neocon.
 
So? In Indiana (I believe), the govt ruled that a set of gun control laws were unconstitutional, but the people voted to overturn them.

Why are you so obsessed with gays not getting tax benefits anyway? It's not gonna stop Rev. Ted Haggart from sharing meth needles with gay hookers. Move on and get a life. Anyone who's obsessed with controlling people's personal lifes is not a real conservative, just a typical socialist neocon.



Don't try and change the subject my left wing friend.......This thread is about gay marriage in Maine getting shot down.........Name calling whicjh is typical of your side will get you no where.......
 
Hey Navy....welcome back. Are you going to man-up and answer the question to your own post:

If Sexual Orientation is changeable...are you saying that you could easily change your sexual orientation and be attracted to men?
 
You mean like:
1) Income taxes
2) Prescription drugs
3) Citizenship
4) Medicare
5) Social security
6) Welfare

Look at all those people who are "entitled" to something others aren't.

I think that everyone should be entitled to all of those things. Why should I be entitled to them and deny them to others?
 
Hey Navy....welcome back. Are you going to man-up and answer the question to your own post:

If Sexual Orientation is changeable...are you saying that you could easily change your sexual orientation and be attracted to men?

If the question is about what happened in Maine I will answer it otherwise sorry DD I will not be distracted, and Thanks..........
 
If the question is about what happened in Maine I will answer it otherwise sorry DD I will not be distracted, and Thanks..........

C'mon navy....be a man. You posed the issue yourself.
Are you embarassed to admit it?

If you believe that sexual orientation is changeable, aren't you saying that you yourself could easily change your sexual orientation and be attracted to men?

Its an easy question......we are all waiting for you to prove your manliness and answer the question.
 
I know that I could not change my orientation....but it seems to imply that you can.

Am I correct Navy?
 
Don't try and change the subject my left wing friend.......This thread is about gay marriage in Maine getting shot down.........Name calling whicjh is typical of your side will get you no where.......
I'm a libertarian, not a leftist. You're more leftist than I am if you think that people's personal lives should even be a public issue.

If it got shot down then it's not a huge deal to me (I'd like to see the state keep out of all marriage and just leave it as a ceremony). I just think you're gay obsession is very creepy. You guys think that giving gays tax benefits is worse for this nation than the recession, the Iraq War, etc etc just because The Bible lists it as a "sin". I find that very disturbing.
 
I know that I could not change my orientation....but it seems to imply that you can.

Am I correct Navy?

One last entry on this...........A female officer in the Washington National Guard did that here.........After over 30 years marriage an 3 grown children she divorced her husband and moved in with a lesbian..............

There are many cases like that, especially people changing from gay to straight......Now I know what your going to say that they are actually BI, well no one knows thats for sure..........

Now you know my position on this issue.. I have stated it a dozen times so I aks you again please stay on topic.............
 
One last entry on this...........A female officer in the Washington National Guard did that here.........After over 30 years marriage an 3 grown children she divorced her husband and moved in with a lesbian..............

There are many cases like that, especially people changing from gay to straight......Now I know what your going to say that they are actually BI, well no one knows thats for sure..........

Now you know my position on this issue.. I have stated it a dozen times so I aks you again please stay on topic.............

I'm not asking about people who claim to have overcome their gayness.

I am asking you directly in response to your post.

You say that sexual orientation is changeable. Does that mean that you yourself could easily change yours and become attracted to men?

Does this question raise issues that make you feel uncomfortable? If not, why can't you answer the question?

What should we take your silence on this question to mean?
 
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Navy......we'll be anxiously awaiting your return.....and your answer.
 
You mean like:
1) Income taxes
2) Prescription drugs
3) Citizenship
4) Medicare
5) Social security
6) Welfare

Look at all those people who are "entitled" to something others aren't.

They aren't so much as entitled to most of these things so much as they "qualify" and usually you have to do something (or NOT be able to do something) to get this stuff.
 
So why don't the Mainiacs send Republicans to the US Senate instead of those washed up RINO hags Snow and Collins?

First off a little ****ing respect alright it's Sent. Snowe and Sent. Collins second you don't **** about the State of Maine alright so I suggest you stop now before you make a more fool out of yourself.
 
First off a little ****ing respect alright it's Sent. Snowe and Sent. Collins second you don't **** about the State of Maine alright so I suggest you stop now before you make a more fool out of yourself.

I believe the abbreviation for senator is Sen. and Snowe is a R.I.N.O.


and c'mon "Mainiacs" is funny.
 
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