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Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

Elena said:
Precisely the point!

Then why do we have to be subjected to "Gay Pride" marches, gay awareness at schools or quotas for gay people at work?

If gays have a right to rub their gayness into our faces, then we have an equal right to oppose it.
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Heterosexual sex IS in our faces 24/7. GP parades, gay awareness at school and quotas for gays (is there really such a thing?) is not 24/7. Go have a walk through any American mall. Turn on the TV whereever you live. Heterosexual sex is in your face constantly. Billboard ads. Fashion. Entertainment. It's all about S.E.X.

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j-mac said:
Wow, just wow. :shock: Let me make it clear, I am not associated with these comments in any way due to both of us being self proclaimed conservatives.


j-mac
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I never thought it was
 
disneydude said:
Basic human rights are not without limits under the equal protection clause of the US Constitution.
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And the reason we have the referendum. Those issues that should be defined by society are thus defined, many observers feel same sex marriage is a basic human right, the vast majority disagree. In those states where a court rules, the issue normally returns to the legislature and then the Constitution is often amended to remove the basic human rights argument.
 
Charles Martel said:
And the reason we have the referendum. Those issues that should be defined by society are thus defined, many observers feel same sex marriage is a basic human right, the vast majority disagree. In those states where a court rules, the issue normally returns to the legislature and then the Constitution is often amended to remove the basic human rights argument.
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I don't disagree. However, it is a sad commentary on where America is today when we still have slight majorities that want rights to themselves while denying them to others.

Why don't we restrict the word "prayer" to only muslims?
 
rhinefire said:
Women dressing like men
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I hate to break it to you, but women have been dressing like men since women's pants were invented. :doh In fact, I'm dressed like a man right now in cargo pants and long sleeved T. I'm not strapping on an "apparatus" any time soon.
 
StandUpChuck said:
I hate to break it to you, but women have been dressing like men since women's pants were invented. :doh In fact, I'm dressed like a man right now in cargo pants and long sleeved T. I'm not strapping on an "apparatus" any time soon.
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:rofl


j-mac
 
StandUpChuck said:
I hate to break it to you, but women have been dressing like men since women's pants were invented. :doh In fact, I'm dressed like a man right now in cargo pants and long sleeved T. I'm not strapping on an "apparatus" any time soon.
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Then I guess propositioning you is out of the question now. ;)
 
aps said:
Then I guess propositioning you is out of the question now. ;)
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:rofl Well it might be worth it just to do it in front of Elena. Calling dibs on being the top!
 
disneydude said:
I don't disagree. However, it is a sad commentary on where America is today when we still have slight majorities that want rights to themselves while denying them to others.

Why don't we restrict the word "prayer" to only muslims?
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We don't consider anyone's orientation a right. We consider the right to be society's right to define their own cultural institutions.

My state of Virginia was a prime example, we amended our Constitution. We went to our state courts and the legislature amended its Constitution to specifically define marriage as one man one woman.

We discriminate based on gender and if you're already under contract, in other words, polygamists are discriminated against as a result of this amendment, could they use the Muslim prayer analogy?
 
Catz Part Deux said:
Elena will not be sufficiently mortified...I mean, titillated...unless you do it in the butt.
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Do lesbians do anal? Huh! I never knew. I'm glad we've got Elena to expose homesexual acts to us. I guess we really don't need the information in schools, afterall! :mrgreen:
 
disneydude said:
Like I said Elena....you need to take some basic American Civics lessons.
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No, I don't. The is something intrinsically wrong with the society that thinks it's a norm to be dictated to by minority lobbies and corporate policymakers. But it's your problem.
 
StandUpChuck said:
Do lesbians do anal? Huh! I never knew. I'm glad we've got Elena to expose homesexual acts to us. I guess we really don't need the information in schools, afterall! :mrgreen:
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I think that while not everyone does anal, there are certainly a significant population within the straight AND the lgbt population who do. I'm not a fan. Of course, that means I don't spend a significant amount of time thinking about what other people put in their asses, like some people we all know.

*Wink wink nudge nudge.*
 
Elena said:
The is something intrinsically wrong with the society that thinks it's a norm to be dictated to by minority lobbies and corporate policymakers. But it's your problem.
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So, in elena world, the rights of the minority do not matter?
 
It's unfortunate that it was repealed. Eventually we'll do the right thing and either get rid of the marriage license or allow same sex marriage. Hopefully the blind and ignorant can wake up. Same sex marriage isn't the danger some may think it is. Out of control, unaccountable government is. Gay marriage is used only as a divisive issue, try to get people not to think when they vote (sadly it seems to work for Americans these days...so many uneducated people). Neither side is actually interested in anything being solved. If we resolve the gay marriage issue, it can't be used to divide and polarize.
 
StandUpChuck said:
Billboard ads. Fashion. Entertainment. It's all about S.E.X.

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If that's what you choose to have...

Like I said, if gays want to have the right to flaunt their gayness publically, they must accept the right of otheres to object to it. That's called equality.
 
Just skimming the thread to see if anyone brings anything new or if this is the same 'oll same 'oll :2wave:
 
Battles for civil rights are marathons, not sprints. Gay marriage has only been a reality in America for 5 years. It's inane to think that the country is going to change overnight, especially considering that within that same 5 year period, 29 states passed Constitutional amendments banning gay marriage. The defeat in Maine was simply a people's veto of a statute, not an amendment like Prop 8. The legislature could easily pass a new law reinstating same sex marriage, although it is very unlikely that they will do so anytime soon. Honestly, if you are disappointed by the results in Maine then it only demonstrates that you are naive of what it means to fight a civil rights battle by wanting instantaneous results. The demographics are on the same sex marriage side, and if the proponents are patient and vigilant, then they will succeed.

That being said, the battles in Maine and California demonstrates how effective propaganda is in this country. When people can be swayed by fear tactics like, "don't be fooled, gay marriage will be taught in schools" and "the people of Maine have had this law imposed on them by their duly elected representatives" you just know the intelligence level just isn't there yet in this country to win by reason.
 
What is impressive about this is in the 31 states where gay marriage was put to a vote it was defeated.......The only states where gay marriage was approved is by activist judges..........
 
Navy Pride said:
What is impressive about this is in the 31 states where gay marriage was put to a vote it was defeated.......The only states where gay marriage was approved is by activist judges..........
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No, also by legislatures.
 
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