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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Yes....loving was based on inter-racial marriage. However, the underlying principle in the case recognized that the right of consenting adults to marry the person of their choice is a right. The underlying principle was not based on race.
    Yes it was, the decision even states as much.
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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

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    And who is legislating happiness?
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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    Well if they were happy they wouldn't be complaining.
    HEHEHE OK good point.

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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    It is gender discrimination.
    It has to be a "fundamental right" to be "discrimination" under the law.

    There is no fundamental right to marry a person of the same-sex just as there is no fundamental right to marry a person in your family or a minor or the mentally disabled.

    Therefore, it's not discrimination.

    That's how these other Federaly protected classes can be excluded from marrying and it be perfectly legal.

    This is exactly likes trying to tell some Libertarian that banning private ownership of missiles is not a violation of the 2nd, because you never had the right to own missiles in the first place.

    No one ever had the right to marry the same-sex.

    If heteros could marry the same-sex, then and only then could gays point to that right and claim discrimination.
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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    HEHEHE OK good point.

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    But having said that, they too could offer concessions instead of making nothing but demands.

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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Yes it was, the decision even states as much.
    No....the underlying decision started with the premise that the court recognized marriage as a basic human right. It then analyzed the state based limitation under an equal protection analysis and decided that there was no legitimate state interest that justified limiting the right of marriage to same race couples.
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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    It has to be a "fundamental right" to be "discrimination" under the law.

    There is no fundamental right to marry a person of the same-sex just as there is no fundamental right to marry a person in your family or a minor or the mentally disabled.

    Therefore, it's not discrimination.

    That's how these other Federaly protected classes can be excluded from marrying and it be perfectly legal.

    This is exactly likes trying to tell some Libertarian that banning private ownership of missiles is not a violation of the 2nd, because you never had the right to own missiles in the first place.

    No one ever had the right to marry the same-sex.

    If heteros could marry the same-sex, then and only then could gays point to that right and claim discrimination.

    No Jerry...you are wrong.

    Under equal protection analysis, "Fundamental" rights receive a higher degree of scrutiny. But there is nothing in the Constitution that requires a right to be fundamental to be scrutinized under equal protection. Quite the opposite.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    No....the underlying decision started with the premise that the court recognized marriage as a basic human right. It then analyzed the state based limitation under an equal protection analysis and decided that there was no legitimate state interest that justified limiting the right of marriage to same race couples.
    It was stated plainly in the decision as to why.

    No cigar.
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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    No Jerry...you are wrong.

    Under equal protection analysis, "Fundamental" rights receive a higher degree of scrutiny. But there is nothing in the Constitution that requires a right to be fundamental to be scrutinized under equal protection. Quite the opposite.
    Maybe instead of saying "No, You are wrong" you should say "Ok, well here's what I think"

    If someone really is wrong, and you present the true information, they'll come around.


    Maybe?



    hmmmm?





    Huh, big guy?




    You wanna give it a try?

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