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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by Elena View Post
    And you obviously do not understand the very purpose of the existence of a state with all its laws and constitutions. It exists to represent and defend the majority of the citizens.
    Following your reasoning: Islamics do not represent the majority of the citizens. Thus, they should have no rights to express their hatred in public.

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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    What about flaunting "blackness" in public....or "jewish" in public?
    It is part of the same politically correct agenda called "positive discrimination".

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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    When you put one groups rights to a vote....why restrict it to that?

    Last I remember, Blacks were pretty offended when the gay community started tying themselves to the struggles of AAmericans.


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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Last I remember, Blacks were pretty offended when the gay community started tying themselves to the struggles of AAmericans.


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    Some were, some won't. Does that have relevance to the argument? It doesn't matter if blacks are offended if the legal violations of individual rights are the same.

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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    Cassandra, please read through her posts in here. She's obsessed with her disgust towards anal intercourse, which she argues would have been occurring everywhere had gay marriage been given the "yes."
    Why don't you concentrate on defending your position on the subject without slipping into a shrill of a vendor in a Turkish marketplace?

    I am quite capable of expressing my thoughts without employing a personal mouthpiece, thank you.

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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    If Islamic extremists want to flaunt their hate in public, they should accept the right of the public to throw them out, back to the third world they've done such a good job of creating in the Middle East. They've made their beds there, in filth, hatred, and squalor, and they should be left to them.
    Yes, throw Islamic extremists out of your country if they are not a majority there. Your point?

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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by StandUpChuck View Post
    Second, I recently learned this myself. All gays don't do anal. So you're perperuating a falicy that has no bearing on the GM issue.
    1) Homosexuals account for less than 10% of the population.
    2) Fewer than 50% of homosexuals engage in anal intercourse, because slightly more than 50% of homosexuals are women and because, as you say, not every homosexual male engages in anal intercourse.
    3) More than 10% of heterosexual couples surveyed engage in anal intercourse on a regular basis.

    Put it together. Heterosexuals engage in more than twice as much anal sex as homosexuals. Makes you wonder what people like Elena are really upset about in the first place.

    Of course, none of this has anything to do with the gay marriage issue because what most people who are passionate about this issue completely fail to realize is that marriage is not about sex in the first place. Their prurient interest in other peoples' sex lives blinds them to the fact that marriage is a public, social institution that is largely independent of those peoples' private sex lives. Marriage is about family, and homosexuals have families the same as heterosexuals; their families have the same economic and political concerns as everyone else's families and the same compelling interests in forming alliances and securing the smooth transition of property from one generation to the next.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elena View Post
    Then why do we have to be subjected to "Gay Pride" marches, gay awareness at schools or quotas for gay people at work?
    Because goddamned liberals have increasingly interpreted Constitutional protections of free speech to include any and every activity that might express an opinion and have thrown out just about every law pertaining to public disturbance and obscenity. This has very little to do with gay activists themselves, who are only taking advantage of laws that were loosened to accommodate the perversions of heterosexuals.

    One advantage to legalizing gay marriage is that homosexuals would have less reason to take to the streets looking and acting like deranged perverts, and those of us with any remaining sense of decency would have more justification in turning the dogs and firehoses on the ones that continued to do so.

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    What is really sad that in America today....basic human rights are put to a popular vote. To me that is more sad than any outcome.
    Marriage isn't a basic human right. It is a social institution that is subject to specific-- sometimes very specific-- rules in every human culture. If marriage were a basic human right, it could not legally be denied to consenting adults on the basis of consanguinity, affinity, nationality, or prior marriage and it just so happens that every functioning State government not only restricts marriage on some of those grounds, it restricts marriage on all of those grounds.

    Marriage is not now and has never been a "basic human right" and Loving v. Virginia did not make it so. It ruled, very specifically, that marriage could not be denied to otherwise legal applicants on the basis of race.

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    I honestly don't see elena getting it. She's blinded by her hatred towards anal intercourse being done in her presence.
    Can you blame her? Hell, it makes me more than a little tetchy myself.

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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Well, getting back to Maine...

    I listened to a rep from the catholic church discuss the issue. He repeatedly claimed that opposition had nothing to do with religion. I don't believe him. I think it has everything to do with religion... And there are many religious Mainers.

    I believe that their should be "marriage" for everyone who is religious and "merige" for everyone who is secular.

    The churches want to own the word. I am O.K. with that. My spouse and I would happily recoin the word applied to our legal arrangement and have anyone gay or straight join in the same legal arrangement.

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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    Are you saying that I am not allowed to draw conclusions based upon your posts? Are you serious? Get a grip.
    You were not "drawing conclusions", but telling around what I think as if I employed you to do so. Concentrate on expressing your own thoughts.

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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by Elena View Post
    Yes, throw Islamic extremists out of your country if they are not a majority there. Your point?
    You fail to understand the function of a constitutional republic. It does not work in the same way as a pure democracy. I see that you are essentially unfamiliar with the checks/balances of the U.S. system of government, and your posts illustrate that lack of information.

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