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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Why do you believe that some people are entitled to certain rights and privileges while feeling justified in denying those same rights and privileges to others?
    Marraige is not a right. And in allot of states they get exactly the same benefits as heterosexual couples. So no one is denying anything.

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    Saying "I don't think it is marriage" is fine for an opinion.....which you are certainly entitled to have. It doesn't however mean that it is correct.
    Since it is indeed subjective, it most certainly does make it correct.
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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    I don't see how that would have solved anything. There's absolutely no reason why same sex couples shouldn't have the same legal rights that heterosexual couples do.
    They do in states like California, and yet they still push for it being recognized as marraige.

    So tell me what is it really about then? Social engineering? Hmmmm.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    It's incredibly easy to be unsympathetic to an issue when you aren't in it yourself or don't have loved ones who experience it. The current system is incredibly discriminatory and it should be changed to at least allow civil unions.
    I have plenty of family and friends who ARE affected. So you can take the appeal to emotion and file it under fallacy.
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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    The fact it was a law and got voted down says allot.

    I agree it is changing, but not as rapidly as you like to think. The number in recent elections bears this out.

    Welcome to a reality check.
    Reality check? Have you followed the polls over the last 10 decades. The shift in attitudes has been exponential.
    If you had asked even the most optimistic gay rights advocate 10 years ago if and when gay marriage might be legal, I guarantee that they would have a different answer today.
    That doesn't even speak to the changing demographics...the older conservative voters are dying off and the younger generation has a much more tolerant acceptance of gays and gay marriage.
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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by Elena View Post
    No. Because they may or may not be fertile and if they adopt, they still will be capable to bring up a balanced individual, while gay couples are incapble of it by definition.

    And before you will come up with "adoption", the very person who first thought up to give kids to gay couples should be sectioned.

    "My mother who is also my father who is a man, but was a woman gave birth to me" -- what that can do to a child's psychological development?

    But of course, it's your society, if you as a society decide to turn yourselves into a collection of psychologically damaged individuals with no idea of a family where mental health is guarded by balanced input from male and female psyche, -- it's your choice, your funeral...
    Haven't followed the thread but I agree with Comrade Elena's general take. Now that is shock and awe.

    Where do we draw the line? Cousins? Mothers and sons? Fathers and daughters? Sisters? Brothers? Why not reintroduce polygamy? If I can support 6 babes... and we all love each other... why not? Where is the line drawn? If they/we love each other... then it should be allowed. Why not?

    Let's face it... a lot of this isn't about marriage, it is about destroying the institution of marriage.

    Here is another perversion. These people talk about being denied "benefits". This is yet another reason why the government shouldn't be taking candy and redistributing it.

    Next thing they'll be introducing primary schoolers to books like Why Sarah has Two Mommies... Oh SNAP! They've already tried that.

    Perhaps NAMBLA shouldn't be denied either... after all... if it's love... anything goes.

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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Haven't followed the thread but I agree with Elena's general take. Now that is shock and awe.

    Where do we draw the line? Cousins? Mothers and sons? Fathers and daughters? Sisters? Brothers? Why not reintroduce polygamy? If I can support 6 babes... and we all love each other... why not? Where is the line drawn? If they/we love each other... then it should be allowed. Why not?

    Let's face it... a lot of this isn't about marriage, it is about destroying the institution of marriage.

    Here is another perversion. These people talk about being denied "benefits". This is yet another reason why the government shouldn't be taking candy and redistributing it.

    Next thing they'll be introducing primary schoolers to books like Why Sarah has Two Mommies... Oh SNAP! They've already tried that.

    Perhaps NAMBLA shouldn't be denied either... after all... if it's love... anything goes.

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    Yeah.....perhaps we should have stopped before inter-racial marriage and allowing the mixing of the races....
    An even better idea....lets restrict marriage to only white Christians. Who decided to allow marriage to minorities, jews and other heathens.
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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Since it is indeed subjective, it most certainly does make it correct.
    wait...what?

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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Reality check? Have you followed the polls over the last 10 decades. The shift in attitudes has been exponential.
    No I have not followed them for the last 100 years.

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    If you had asked even the most optimistic gay rights advocate 10 years ago if and when gay marriage might be legal, I guarantee that they would have a different answer today.
    I lived in Santa Rosa CA back in 87. I can say for a fact that is not true. Some were saying the exact same things as they do today, period.

    The more things change...

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    That doesn't even speak to the changing demographics...the older conservative voters are dying off and the younger generation has a much more tolerant acceptance of gays and gay marriage.
    And it is also a fact as people get older they they tend become more conservative. Not all, but a large portion. How many former hippies are now staunch Republicans, or someplace in the middle like most. Call it being jaded or whatever, but it happens.

    So your demographics mean little for the time being.
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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    wait...what?
    In my mind. It's not rocket science smart ass.
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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    No I have not followed them for the last 100 years.

    Also who said anything about a reality check? I said welcome to reality.



    I lived in Santa Rosa CA back in 87. I can say for a fact that is not true. Some were saying the exact same things as they do today, period.

    The more things change...



    And it is also a fact as people get older they they tend become more conservative. Not all, but a large portion. How many former hippies are now staunch Republicans, or someplace in the middle like most. Call it being jaded or whatever, but it happens.

    So your demographics mean little for the time being.
    LOL...I don't know how many "hippies" you know.....but pretty much everyone I know still share the same beliefs and ideals that they did in their youth.

    The reality is....homosexuality is much more accepted in the younger generation and that is unlikely to change.
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