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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Navy: Is the reason that you are dodging the question is because it is difficult for you to talk about?
    C'mon man.....you're among friends. YOU raised the issue:

    You say that people can change their sexual orientation. Is that based on personal knowledge that you could easily change your sexual orientation and be attracted to men?
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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Navy: Is the reason that you are dodging the question is because it is difficult for you to talk about?
    C'mon man.....you're among friends. YOU raised the issue:

    You say that people can change their sexual orientation. Is that based on personal knowledge that you could easily change your sexual orientation and be attracted to men?
    So let me get this straight (no pun intended)

    If you have a family and kids for most of your life then "come out of the closet" you were gay the whole time and never changed your sexual orientation but if you are gay and then marry and have kids you're lying?
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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    So let me get this straight (no pun intended)

    If you have a family and kids for most of your life then "come out of the closet" you were gay the whole time and never changed your sexual orientation but if you are gay and then marry and have kids you're lying?
    If you are gay....you are gay. It doesn't matter if you pretend to be straight or not.
    You can buy purple contact lens to "change" the color of your eyes.....doesn't mean that in reality your eyes are really purple.
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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Navy: Is the reason that you are dodging the question is because it is difficult for you to talk about?
    C'mon man.....you're among friends. YOU raised the issue:

    You say that people can change their sexual orientation. Is that based on personal knowledge that you could easily change your sexual orientation and be attracted to men?
    I'm not answering for Navy, just my here:

    My sister decided she was born gay and went to all the demonstrations, helped in a few local election campaigns, the paraids etc.

    One day she decided she wasn't born gay anymore, dumped her "wife" (they weren't legally married) and became a born-again.

    Now I understand that folks will say "well she was never actually born-gay then", and I don't necessarily disagree.

    However, since there is a good number of gays who claim to be born-that-way and then change their ways, it generates statistical data anti-gm folks can point to and validly claim "gays do change".

    My point is you need to worry about those on your side who are lying about who they are far more than you need to worry about people like Navy.

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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    People run the gamut.

    Are some people confused....think they are gay and later realize that they aren't. Absolutely

    Are some people confused....try to be straight and find out they can't. Absolutely.

    Do some gay people mask their sexual orientation and pretend to be straight. Absolutely.


    The bottom line - unlike ethnicity...people can mask their sexual orientation.
    But when people like Navy claim that people can actually change their sexual orientation then they need to man up and answer the question.

    If its possible to change your sexual orientation does that mean that you personally could easily decide to become sexually attracted to men?

    Navy has been dodging the question...and his silence on the issue is very telling.
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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    People run the gamut.

    Are some people confused....think they are gay and later realize that they aren't. Absolutely

    Are some people confused....try to be straight and find out they can't. Absolutely.

    Do some gay people mask their sexual orientation and pretend to be straight. Absolutely.


    The bottom line - unlike ethnicity...people can mask their sexual orientation.
    But when people like Navy claim that people can actually change their sexual orientation then they need to man up and answer the question.

    If its possible to change your sexual orientation does that mean that you personally could easily decide to become sexually attracted to men?

    Navy has been dodging the question...and his silence on the issue is very telling.
    Masked orientation or changed actual-orientation: those are both functionally identical for all practical purposes relating to the average voter coming to an opinion on an issue.

    Regardless of why, gays change their preference. IMO it doesn't matter why, it happens often enough to be relevant and that's all that matters.

    If Navy thinks he has some politically sterile, well sourced, well thought out and credibly vetted thesis on psycho-sexual disorders then I leave it to him to present it.

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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    I'm interested in your thoughts on how one changes their sexual preference at the drop of a hat. Enlighten me.
    If your interested n that start a thread or poll on the subject......This thread is about Maine voters rejecting gay marriage...........
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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Again getting back on topic............I take my hat off to the people of Maine and the people of the other 31 states who have rejected gay marriage...........This is a message to Liberals and a few gay activists that Gay Marriage has been rejected by the American People..........
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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Masked orientation or changed actual-orientation: those are both functionally identical for all practical purposes relating to the average voter coming to an opinion on an issue.

    Regardless of why, gays change their preference. IMO it doesn't matter why, it happens often enough to be relevant and that's all that matters.

    If Navy thinks he has some politically sterile, well sourced, well thought out and credibly vetted thesis on psycho-sexual disorders then I leave it to him to present it.
    Jerry we have been over this a dozen times... DD knows my position on the issue he is just trying to hijack the thread...........
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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by Elena View Post
    Precisely the point!

    Then why do we have to be subjected to "Gay Pride" marches, gay awareness at schools or quotas for gay people at work?

    If gays have a right to rub their gayness into our faces, then we have an equal right to oppose it.
    You obviously don't understand the purpose of Gay Pride parades.

    And they aren't rubbing their sexual orientation in anyone's face anymore than heterosexuals do.

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