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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    Yes but getting marriage isn't getting something back from the government.
    Uh, yes it is. Spousal Privilege and next-of-kin to name a couple items.


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    So...You have to qualify for marriage, now? Well that makes sense.
    We've always had to qualify for marriage. There are Federal requirements like being unrelated to state requirements such as STD testing.

    If a hetero loves another hetero and they want to marry, but one has an STD, the application is denied.
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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Uh, yes it is. Spousal Privilege and next-of-kin to name a couple items.




    We've always had to qualify for marriage. There are Federal requirements like being unrelated to state requirements such as STD testing.

    If a hetero loves another hetero and they want to marry, but one has an STD, the application is denied.
    Touche, sir, Touche.


    I guess the gays should have thought about this before they went and got all gay.

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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    Touche, sir, Touche.


    I guess the gays should have thought about this before they went and got all gay.

    No one is stopping them from freely associating as they please.

    The right to marry is not the right to freely associate. People often confuse the two. No one is legislating who anyone can love.

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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    No one is stopping them from freely associating as they please.

    The right to marry is not the right to freely associate. People often confuse the two. No one is legislating who anyone can love.
    But they are legislating something that they want and are entitled to.

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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    But they are legislating something that they want and are entitled to.
    That's the right to marry, not the right to freely associate, and gays do have every bit as much access to marriage as heteros do as there is no requirement to be of a particular sexual orientation to apply for a marriage license.

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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    That's the right to marry, not the right to freely associate, and gays do have every bit as much access to marriage as heteros do as there is no requirement to be of a particular sexual orientation to apply for a marriage license.
    Gays have every bit as much access to marriage as heteros do? Uh...you seen the title of this thread lately?

    two people who pay taxes and are 'together' (Marriage or Civil Union, I don't care what you call it) should get the same benefits that two people who pay taxes get. (Marriage or Civil Union, I don't care what you call it)

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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    Gays have every bit as much access to marriage as heteros do? Uh...you seen the title of this thread lately?
    The law changed marriage, it did not extend a right that only heteros allegedly have to now include gays.

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    two people who pay taxes and are 'together' (Marriage or Civil Union, I don't care what you call it) should get the same benefits that two people who pay taxes get. (Marriage or Civil Union, I don't care what you call it)
    They do, if only they choose to. Gays typically choose not to, just as many hetero couples choose not to, and that's their choice. Frankly I think you're being a touch homophobic by not letting gays live with their own decisions. It's their life, not yours, so let them live it. If they choose not to enter a relationship that can marry, that doesn't affect you, so it's non of your business.

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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    The law changed marriage, it did not extend a right that only heteros allegedly have to now include gays.



    They do, if only they choose to. Gays typically choose not to, just as many hetero couples choose not to, and that's their choice. Frankly I think you're being a touch homophobic by not letting gays live with their own decisions. It's their life, not yours, so let them live it. If they choose not to enter a relationship that can marry, that doesn't affect you, so it's non of your business.
    You are excellent at word manipulation. But your substance leaves much to be desired.

    I am saying TAXPAYERS should get what's coming to them, if in this case GAYS are TAXPAYERS and want what's coming to them, then give it to them. You're just playing with words to try and make me look stupid or make me recant. Which, I won't But hey, this game is fun. ok, your turn!

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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    You are excellent at word manipulation. But your substance leaves much to be desired.

    I am saying TAXPAYERS should get what's coming to them, if in this case GAYS are TAXPAYERS and want what's coming to them, then give it to them. You're just playing with words to try and make me look stupid or make me recant. Which, I won't But hey, this game is fun. ok, your turn!
    Non-taxpayers also have the right to marry as paying taxes has never been a requirement on a marriage license.

    This is how the government can marry a foreign national with a US citizen. The foreign national, having never paid US taxes, simply agrees to the terms of the US marriage license.

    Your "taxpayer" qualification is not but an appeal to emotion, no different than pointing to gay soldiers. Paying taxes has nothing to do with being eligible for marriage, it is therefore a false premise.
    Last edited by Jerry; 11-05-09 at 02:46 AM.

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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    54 pages of blabbering on this thread in just a day. Would hate to have to read it all as like other ssm threads on this board, the discussion is quickly hijacked into myriad directions.

    I would just like to thank those 53% of Maine voters that bothered to come out and vote and thus continue to show that in virtually every state that has ever had a same sex marriage ballot initiative, the American people have CONSISTENTLY spoken to deny such. Even here in liberal California. Victory!

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