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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by Elena View Post
    What did YOU offer so far? Politically correct slogans and personal attacks?
    Very well.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...post1057847882

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...post1057847883

    Quote Originally Posted by Elena View Post
    If you really wanted to find out about the damage same-sex couples and single parent upbringing does to the psychological development of a child, you would've found the information. But you don't want to. Be happy in your ignorance, I am not your mother to care.
    Please show me this evidence that has convinced you. Do you have anything? Anything at all?

    What convinced you?
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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by Elena View Post
    If you really wanted to find out about the damage same-sex couples and single parent upbringing does to the psychological development of a child, you would've found the information. But you don't want to. Be happy in your ignorance, I am not your mother to care.
    What do single parents upbringing children have to do with same sex couples upbringing children?

    I think I've posted this before...

    http://pediatrics.aappublications.or...rint/118/1/349

    Somewhere along the line did you see "fatherless" statistics taken from children of single mothers and get it mixed up in your head that a single parent home could somehow translate over to a two parent same sex couple home?
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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by Elena View Post
    Really? And numerous studies in UK are showing the crucial importance of both male and female -- father and mother -- input into a healthy development of a child.

    I guess, they are wrong. Political correctness rules!
    Its not about PC its about making a logical argument without flaws. You failed miserably in supporting your argument. Sorry.
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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Yup, same-sex couples can raise children just fine...as can related couples and underage siblings.

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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    What "PRIVILEGES" do married people get that non-married people cannot get through civil contract?

    What "PRIVILEGES" do married people get that are unconstitutional for non-married people not to get?
    Most of the privledges that married folks get comes from the federal government. Just how exactly is a single person going to get those benefits through a civil contract?

    joint parenting
    joint adoption
    joint foster care, custody, and visitation (including non-biological parents)
    status as next-of-kin for hospital visits and medical decisions where one partner is too ill to be competent
    joint insurance policies for home, auto and health
    dissolution and divorce protections such as community property and child support
    immigration and residency for partners from other countries
    inheritance automatically in the absence of a will
    joint leases with automatic renewal rights in the event one partner dies or leaves the house or apartment
    inheritance of jointly-owned real and personal property through the right of survivorship (which avoids the time and expense and taxes in probate)
    benefits such as annuities, pension plans, Social Security, and Medicare
    spousal exemptions to property tax increases upon the death of one partner who is a co-owner of the home
    veterans' discounts on medical care, education, and home loans
    joint filing of tax returns
    joint filing of customs claims when traveling
    wrongful death benefits for a surviving partner and children
    bereavement or sick leave to care for a partner or child
    decision-making power with respect to whether a deceased partner will be cremated or not and where to bury him or her
    crime victims' recovery benefits
    loss of consortium tort benefits
    domestic violence protection orders
    judicial protections and evidentiary immunity
    and more....

    There are around 1,100 priviledges granted by the federal government to those that are married.
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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    If someone pays their taxes and obeys the laws, why should they be considered different. First one to answer correctly wins 10 internets.

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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    If someone pays their taxes and obeys the laws, why should they be considered different. First one to answer correctly wins 10 internets.
    Different doesn't mean unequal so treating someone differently when they actually are different is ok.
    Last edited by Jerry; 11-05-09 at 01:21 AM.

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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Different doesn't mean unequal so different is ok.
    Mmmmm if they aren't getting something that other taxpayers are getting then yes, Different is unequal.

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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    Mmmmm if they aren't getting something that other taxpayers are getting then yes, Different is unequal.
    You can't get SS if you're not disabled or elderly. You can't get Tricare unles you're in the service. You can't get FASFA unles you're a student.

    In each of those 3 examples, a tax-payer is getting something other tax payers can not.

    Yet they are all equal non-the-less.

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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    You can't get SS if you're not disabled or elderly. You can't get Tricare unles you're in the service. You can't get FASFA unles you're a student.

    In each of those 3 examples, a tax-payer is getting something other tax payers can not.

    Yet they are all equal non-the-less.

    Yes but getting marriage isn't getting something back from the government.



    So...You have to qualify for marriage, now? Well that makes sense.

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