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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    1. maine had a very large turnout for an off year, apparently, 55%, probably most of em animated by this issue

    2. gay marriage is now 0 for 31 in states where it's been brought before voters

    3. even CA, where the same day obama was elected, 70% of african americans killed same sex unions

    70% of African Americans backed Prop. 8, exit poll finds | L.A. NOW | Los Angeles Times

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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Yes, I said "married", not "cohabiting".

    I used the word correctly.
    Marriage has a different legal definition depending upon your state.

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    Then the Full Faith and Credit clause of the Constitution will make it legal in your state
    Explain how. Or is this another "probably", a.k.a., "guess"?

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    Personally, I don't a person should be penalized for not being married, regardless of how many offspring they can claim.
    You are entitled to your opinion.

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    It is a violation of the American sense of fair play, though,
    What section of the constitution is that under exactly?

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    and clearly also violates the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment.
    If you are so certain then you can explain how.

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    Age based eligibilities are one thing, there are rational arguments for each of the items on that list.
    So you admit that certain types of discrimination is legal and constitutional?
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    There are no rational arguments in opposition to same sex marriage.
    I agree that there are no valid arguments against homosexuality and cohabitation of consenting adults. There are, however, valid arguments for granting child rearing couples additional benefits or privlidges.
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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    Oh and the NORTH DIDN'T STARTED THE WAR have you read all of Mr. Lincoln address nothing like taking one line out of the whole address. See he nor Congress could end slavery what part of the of how the US Govn works that you don't understand so we and other can help you to understand why the North nor Mr Lincoln couldn't abolish Slavery.


    If they could not abolish it, how did they manage to abolish it in the end? Then again, at the time proceding the war didn't the president state he DID NOT INTEND TO END SLAVERY where it existed?

    Give it up, Scorpion89, your "Our civil war was all about freeing slaves" is as much of a bullsh*t as is your "war on terror" and the "spreading of something you yourselves are lacking -- democracy"! All lies and clumsy attempts to beautify a simple greed: greed for the riches of the Southern states then, greed for the riches of independent countries now.

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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    who give a flying **** the bottom line is the citz of maine voted as a majority to abolish this law end of the discussion.
    But was it "majority" or "plurality"? Aparently, it is very important! Then again, regardless of "majority" or "plurality" isn't it bigotry to reject what is politically correct?

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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by Elena View Post
    But was it "majority" or "plurality"? Aparently, it is very important! Then again, regardless of "majority" or "plurality" isn't it bigotry to reject what is politically correct?
    It isn't a matter of being politically correct. It a simple matter of fairness and what IS right.

    What is right about certain citizens believing that they are entitled to rights while denying those same rights to others?
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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by Elena View Post


    If they could not abolish it, how did they manage to abolish it in the end? Then again, at the time proceding the war didn't the president state he DID NOT INTEND TO END SLAVERY where it existed?

    Give it up, Scorpion89, your "Our civil war was all about freeing slaves" is as much of a bullsh*t as is your "war on terror" and the "spreading of something you yourselves are lacking -- democracy"! All lies and clumsy attempts to beautify a simple greed: greed for the riches of the Southern states then, greed for the riches of independent countries now.
    Wow what part of the US Const. don't you understand unlike where your from the Dictator just can't say be done with this. In the USA we have rules and laws on how stuff is done. As I stated Mr. Lincoln on Nov 22 1862 ended Slavery in the USA with the Emancipation Proclamation.

    As for the rest of your post please give it a rest or shall we talk about the Orange Movement in your Country and which Country supported it huh. The American Civil War had nothing to do with Southern Greed it had allot to do with State vrs. Federal Rights I suggest you go and learn something about the 10th Adm and how it applies to the US Civil War. Oh one other little unknow fact is that with in the Confederate State there was a discussion to free the Slave's first and then declare war on the Union, It's a well know fact that Southern Generals like Lee,Longstreet,Pickett,AP Hill were in favor of freeing the slave's.

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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    It isn't a matter of being politically correct. It a simple matter of fairness and what IS right.

    What is right about certain citizens believing that they are entitled to rights while denying those same rights to others?
    Don't mix up "rights" with "wishes".

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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    It isn't a matter of being politically correct. It a simple matter of fairness and what IS right.

    What is right about certain citizens believing that they are entitled to rights while denying those same rights to others?
    Are you talking about:
    1) Medicare
    2) Social security
    3) Income taxes
    4) Drinking age
    5) Voting age
    6) Citizenship
    7) Gun rights
    8) Drug rights
    Or 9) marriage?

    Because all of these are valid to what you said.

    What "rights" does one get from marriage that can't be given through civil contract?
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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by Elena View Post
    Don't mix up "rights" with "wishes".
    I disagree but regardless....lets phrase it a different way.

    What is right or just about a certain group wanting privileges for themselves while denying them to others?

    Is is anything other than selfishness?
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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    Are you talking about:
    1) Medicare
    2) Social security
    3) Income taxes
    4) Drinking age
    5) Voting age
    6) Citizenship
    7) Gun rights
    8) Drug rights
    Or 9) marriage?

    Because all of these are valid to what you said.
    Those are all based on age. Hardly the same as denying an entire group rights/privileges forever.
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