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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    LOL, when are you gay marriage advocates going to realize that normal people don't think like you? When the most liberal state in the union shot it down last year, you should have taken your hint and cut your losses.

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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    First Off Peter shut the **** up you don't live in Maine nor in the United States so you have no ****ing idea what the hell your talking about. We the Citz. of Maine voted on this issue and decide that WE didn't want to have this law hence WE excerised OUR 1st Adm Rights. What ****ing part of that don't you understand oh I know US Constitution better then you Scorpion. maybe you should just stick to what the hell goes on in England and Europe from now on. Or get on a plane and move to Maine and learn something about us who live there.
    Again, someone losing the argument resorts to personal attacks and the "you aint American" bs angle. Listen, we have had the same discussions in Europe for decades, but over here, logic, freedom and liberty triumphs over religious bigotry.

    Yes you exercised your rights, and so what? Does not mean that the debate is remotely in the sphere of reality in Maine or anywhere else in the US. It is still bogged down in religious dogma vs logical law making.

    And just because I am not American, that some how bars me from voicing my opinion on the subject?

    Maybe you should change these boards to the Debate Right Wing Politics, AMERICANS ONLY!...
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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by tumbleweed View Post
    If the issue of allowing same sex marriage would have been presented to Maine voters in the form of a referendum question on a ballot before it was forced on Mainers from the legislature I believe the outcome would have been different.

    I don't oppose gay marriage. What I was opposed to was legislation coming from lawmakers telling us once again that they are hell-bent on passing laws in Maine without voters being included in the decision making process.
    I think this is part of it. I support gay marriage, but I wasn't terribly thrilled with how this was decided for us. It's such a big issue that it *had* to be something we voted on.

    I had said all along this fall that the outcome of this vote would give an idea just how conservative/liberal Maine really is. On one hand I'm surprised that the vote turned out this way, but on the other, I'm not really.

    There's really not a huge gay population here from what I've seen. Gay guys tend to move to Boston/NYC. Most of Maine's gays are lesbians. Lesbians seem to like the woods.

    So while this outcome is disappointing (and I realize it's easy for me to minimize the effect since I'm legally married), I think the fact that it was so close is a huge step in the right direction. Civil change doesn't happen overnight. But it happens. Give it some more time. I do believe people will come around.

    I just want to add as a Mainer, I'm sorry.
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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post

    we have had the same discussions in Europe for decades, but over here, logic, freedom and liberty triumphs over religious bigotry.
    a) Anal intercourse as well as w-on-w has nothing to do with logic, freedom or liberty;

    b) the opposition to shoving "gayness" into everyone's face has nothing to do with religious bigotry;

    c) And look what good politically correct promotion of "gayness" done to European societies: let's face it, Europe is going down the same road erosion of all moral principles and preoccupation with perversions took Ancient Rome;

    d) Public cowardice before political correct gestapo is not a triumph of liberty.

    And let's be clear on one thing: gay activism is not interested in EQUALITY. They are interested in PRIVILEGES. Why do I know it? Because no one has to even know who is or isn't gay. Sexual life of any individual is a private matter, unless that individual wants to flaunt it before everyone demanding everyone's approval, and when people object, use it as an excuse to claim victimhood and (in some cases) a compensation.

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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    This is what happens when you have mob rule... but at least things are improving. The majority is no longer an overwhelming majority. Things are changing.
    Will you consider it mob if hypothetically they decide to ask the voters in ten or twenty years if they wish to legalize gay marriage and it passes?
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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by Alex View Post
    So now we have legislative activism?

    Legislators are elected to create legislation, that's what they do. The voters were included in the decision making process by electing the legislators.
    So you would be cool if legislators passed a law in Milwaukee requiring that citizens be armed or required that creation be taught in schools after all they were elected to pass laws?
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by Elena View Post
    a) Anal intercourse as well as w-on-w has nothing to do with logic, freedom or liberty;
    Can we stop with the anal crap? For one thing, what goes on behind closed doors between consenting adults is none of anyone's business. I'm sure heteros get a little freaky too, but since it's none of anyone's business ... well ... it's none of anyone's business.

    Second, I recently learned this myself. All gays don't do anal. So you're perperuating a falicy that has no bearing on the GM issue.
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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Now the legal aspect of marriage is not a religious thing. This has to do with taxes, inheritance and so on and that is all civilian law... heck even marriage is that these days too.. you need a licence for example and can skip the whole church thing if you want.
    If these were the only issues, laws should be passed to make taxes and inheritances recognize gay alliances. I doubt anyone would object to that.

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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by Libs_Luv_Weakness View Post
    LOL, when are you gay marriage advocates going to realize that normal people don't think like you? When the most liberal state in the union shot it down last year, you should have taken your hint and cut your losses.
    47% do like them. That's not pocket change, bub. Actually, that's pretty close to the percentage who voted McCain Palin in this state, so are you going to infer that most normal people don't like conservative presidential candidates?
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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by StandUpChuck View Post
    For one thing, what goes on behind closed doors between consenting adults is none of anyone's business. .
    Precisely the point!

    Then why do we have to be subjected to "Gay Pride" marches, gay awareness at schools or quotas for gay people at work?

    If gays have a right to rub their gayness into our faces, then we have an equal right to oppose it.

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