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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    I just dont get it to be honest.

    On one hand the US prides it self on freedom, liberty, equal rights and so on, and with the other hand it denies the very same thing to a minority of its population...

    I guess soon we will see segregation laws proposed again in some states..
    There is a difference between the people and the state, this is nothing new..

    In this case, IMO, the people are correct.
    Their choice (no homosexual marriage) must be honored.
    Lets now spend time and energy on matters than concern most of us, matters that are far more important :
    health care finances/insurance
    economic recovery
    war
    drugs and crime
    maybe not in this order...

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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by Elena View Post
    Online dictionary.

    And does 49 surpass 45?

    Which dictionary? Link?

    49 is a percentage ... the whole is 100. The whole is all votes cast - you cannot have less than 100% when considering all votes cast. 49 surpasses 45, and is a plurality; 49 does not pass half of all votes cast, and thus is not a majority.

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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    if not tomorrow....then the day after that.
    Free is not an easy existence at all. You must continually fight to preserve the exercise of your rights. Fight to ensure that rights in general are recognized and people are free to engage it it. You have to understand that you live inherently in a more dangerous environment since you're allowing people to be free. It's tough going. Free is definitely a low entropy state, and thus requires the input of massive work to maintain. But I say it's worth it.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by Elena View Post
    Online dictionary.

    And does 49 surpass 45?
    49 is larger, but it's not greater than half since half is defined at 50.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    49 is larger, but it's not greater than half since half is defined at 50.

    Right. It's a basic concept. I'm not sure I understand the source of the confusion.

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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    In order to get married you must have two consenting adults.
    Two consenting adults that fall within accepted parameters of relationship by blood or marriage-- said parameters varying by state-- and who are both legal permanent residents of the United States, who are not currently married to other people regardless of the consent of all parties involved. Some States have residency requirements for one or both of the spouses-to-be. Some States have age requirements other than "adult," ranging if I recall correctly from 12 (with parental permission) to 19.

    So no, just because someone is heterosexual does not mean that they can just marry whomever they wish. There are numerous legal requirements that must be met aside from the intended spouses being of the opposite sex, and if marriage is a human right than any couple-- not just homosexual couples-- that do not meet each and every one of those specific legal requirements that vary by State is being denied their right to marriage.

    Marriage is not a right. It is a set of legal privileges offered by the State for qualifying participants.

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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    Right. It's a basic concept. I'm not sure I understand the source of the confusion.
    You and me both pal. I thought fractions were covered in like elementary school.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    Marriage is not a right. It is a set of legal privileges offered by the State for qualifying participants.
    However, since it takes the form of contract, and the individual has the right to contract, it becomes more than privilege granted by the State.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    True.....but sadly in America's history is has rarely been seen...the granting of rights without a struggle.
    This is really a world wide thing, NOT just our nation.
    In truth, we may have more rights for the homosexual than must, if not all...
    Not that we are the most advanced nation....we are not...I think...

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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Marriage is simply a government issued contract. Nothing more, nothing less.
    Not according to polygamists and what other government contract can't I enter into with my sister?
    It was the Austrasians, that hewed on bravely through the thick of the fight, it was they who found and cut down the Saracen King.

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