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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    So, in elena world, the rights of the minority do not matter?
    Who said they don't matter? They do. But they are not held superior.

    And if in your world the rights of minority take precedence, how can you explain that during your elections a candidate with the MAJORITY vote wins? Ever heard the word "logic"? Know what it means? Or is it back to the same: democracy is good when it supports agenda you aprove of?

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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    The demographics are on the same sex marriage side, and if the proponents are patient and vigilant, then they will succeed.
    I'm not convinced nor are many that this is a civil rights issue.

    you just know the intelligence level just isn't there yet in this country to win by reason.
    Next thing you know some no name from a corrupt political machine will spit a candidate out and some cute cliche like hope and change will see some lunatic win the Oval Office, a lunatic no one knows anything about.

    So, I might agree the intelligence level may not be present in order to win by reason. BTW, who did you vote for in the 08 Presidential election, CT?

    Watch this, this should be good.
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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    Okay, I'll be bottom.
    Judging by your posts, you already are...

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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel View Post
    Those issues that should be defined by society are thus defined, many observers feel same sex marriage is a basic human right, the vast majority disagree.
    Words have meanings. In what hypothetical universe is 53% a "vast majority?"

    The English language never did anything to you, to justify you abusing it in such fashion.

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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    No, also by legislatures.
    Activist legislators that will soon find themselves without a job if they keep going against the will of the people who elected them..............
    "God Bless Our Troops in Harms Way."

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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    Okay. I like seeing that you have a sense of humor.
    Was it your expression of humour??? Sorry to hear it...

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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Activist legislators that will soon find themselves without a job if they keep going against the will of the people who elected them..............
    Part of the reason for the judiciary was to ensure the legislature and executive, which is to be more closely responsible to the People, act within the rights and liberties of the People on the whole. The "activist judge" thing, while some definitely have overreached has become a dismissive term used by people when a judge rules against their own ideals. However, if laws (no matter how popularly supported by the People) act against the rights and liberties of the individual it is the duty and power of the courts to strike down the laws. The majority isn't always to get its way. It may have its way so long as it does not infringe upon the rights of the minority.

    And activist legislators is a new one to me. I thought they were supposed to....legislate.
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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by Elena View Post
    But they are not held superior.
    No, they are held as EQUAL to the rights of the majority.

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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by Elena View Post
    how can you explain that during your elections a candidate with the MAJORITY vote wins
    Because that is part of our constitutional republic, we utilize the concept of representational democracy. Candidates are elected to represent the whole. However, those candidates have strictly defined roles. Their actions can be overturned by processes within our constitution, i.e., the veto of the president and/or an action by our supreme courts. Those decisions do not occur on the basis of majority rule, per se.

    It's funny how you like to postulate about our system when it is clear you really don't understand how it operates.

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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Activist legislators that will soon find themselves without a job if they keep going against the will of the people who elected them..............
    'Activist' legislatures? It is the job of the legislature to legislate.

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