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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    You fail to understand the function of a constitutional republic. It does not work in the same way as a pure democracy. I see that you are essentially unfamiliar with the checks/balances of the U.S. system of government, and your posts illustrate that lack of information.
    Right! Now I understand! You wheel out "democracy" when it suits the agenda of a particular lobby dear to the heart of some policymakers, and you completely disregard that same "democracy" when it doesn't support the agenda of some minority lobby!

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    Law ain't going to force anyone's church to perform ceremonies for anyone they don't want to.
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    Congratulations Black Bears.
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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    So, long story short, what have gays really lost due to the vote in Maine?
    Oracle of Utah
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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post

    Elena's still miserable about all of that wanton anal sex. Don't reckon there's much can be done for her about it.

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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by Elena View Post
    Welcome to Britain...
    Britain still has a state church. Meddling is to be expected.

    And any country that seriously considers banning pint glasses because they might be used as weapons is a terrible example to use when talking about absolutely anything pertaining to sound government.

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    Is it a traditional American way of holding a debate: mouthing off for your opponent?
    No, but when you make a stupid argument, in any country, you should expect to be ridiculed for it. When you whine about being ridiculed for making a stupid argument, you should expect to be ridiculed further. You made a stupid argument and then whined about being ridiculed for it. How long this continues is in your own hands now.
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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by Libs_Luv_Weakness View Post
    LOL, when are you gay marriage advocates going to realize that normal people don't think like you? When the most liberal state in the union shot it down last year, you should have taken your hint and cut your losses.
    I do not think it is a matter of people liking or disliking gays. Its a matter of wanting marriage to remain exclusively between one man and one woman.
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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    That is the problem. "An ancient institution" needs not to be changed at all. Churches and preachers can deny marrying gay people all they want, as it is a religious thing. If the gays want to get married in a church.. start your own church or find a preacher/church that is open to such things!

    Now the legal aspect of marriage is not a religious thing. This has to do with taxes, inheritance and so on and that is all civilian law... heck even marriage is that these days too.. you need a licence for example and can skip the whole church thing if you want.

    But the debate in the US (like it was in Europe) has been hijacked by especially the radical religious right and together with the radical gay movement, it has turned into something that it, it is in reality not.
    Strictly speaking, the "religious right" cannot, by definition, be radical.
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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I don't believe that gays being allowed to marry will impact me, at all. That's why I have a libertarian stance on the matter. The only people who DO seem to care about it a great deal seem to spend a significant amount of their time fixated on anuses. I find that rather creepy.
    Once again, it's not "the only people", this is the biggest mistake given concerning this issue. It's always assumed it's some minority closed minded constituency that defeats same sex marriage initiatives. It's actually the overwhelming number of voters in nearly every state same sex marriage gets defeated in. Even states such as California where such high turnout during Presidential elections occur and where a cross section of America lives easily and handily defeats same sex marriage.

    Your "creeped" out feeling should actually be turned inward. In other words, those that support same sex marriage are actually in the minority, on the fringe, and happen to be the ones who actually fixate on anuses. In fact when two men or two women are denied marriage licenses in any of these states, orientation isn't even mentioned, any State doesn't deny the license on the basis you're gay or straight, you're disqualified for gender. It's the gay community that makes it about "gay" marriage, it's important to remember the vast number of Americans have figured this out. They realize it's a political acceptance attempt, the vast majority know it's not about marriage
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    Re: Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I do not think it is a matter of people liking or disliking gays. Its a matter of wanting marriage to remain exclusively between one man and one woman.
    Which is to say, believing that only heterosexuals are fit to raise children and that only heterosexuals deserve to be able to legally designate their next of kin. That sounds very suspiciously like having a serious dislike of people who are not heterosexuals, especially when all available scientific evidence contradicts the first point.

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