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    Conservative Loses Upstate House Race in Blow to Right

    SARANAC LAKE, N.Y. — Democrats won a special election in New York State’s northernmost Congressional district Tuesday, a setback for national conservatives who heavily promoted a third candidate in what became an intense debate over the direction of the Republican Party.
    The Democratic candidate, Bill Owens, led with 49 percent of the vote, while the Conservative Party candidate, Douglas L. Hoffman, had 46 percent. The district has been a Republican stronghold for generations, and the party has represented parts of it since the 19th century.

    The battle became one of the most closely followed races in the nation, drawing in some of the biggest forces in politics in both parties. Republicans who viewed the race as a test of the party’s most deeply held conservative principles — including Sarah Palin, the former governor of Alaska; Gov. Tim Pawlenty of Minnesota, a presidential hopeful; and grass-roots groups that have forcefully opposed Democratic economic and health care policies — rallied behind Mr. Hoffman.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/04/ny...strict.html?hp

    Well what do you know, even a district that is historically Republican couldn't stomach the new conservative agenda.

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    Re: Conservative Loses Upstate House Race in Blow to Right

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/04/ny...strict.html?hp

    Well what do you know, even a district that is historically Republican couldn't stomach the new conservative agenda.
    Yep, that's exactly what happened, you got it.

    How about NJ so sick of the left they turned right?

    Any comment there or are you going to spend the weeks ahead talking about the NY 23 race?
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    Re: Conservative Loses Upstate House Race in Blow to Right

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Yep, that's exactly what happened, you got it.

    How about NJ so sick of the left they turned right?

    Any comment there or are you going to spend the weeks ahead talking about the NY 23 race?
    Yes this is the first election we've seen in a long time where a group of voters of one side was so sick of the other the country's leadership swung from Right to left OR VISA VERSA.

    Do the rabid righties ever get tired of trying to have it both ways in every topic on this forum?

    It is quite laughtable not only to me...but the whole world.

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    Re: Conservative Loses Upstate House Race in Blow to Right

    This one is a shocker. I had not expected that the Dem would win at all. Sure the 2 major races could easily go to the GOP, but this one was almost 100% sure for the GOP.. guess not.
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    Re: Conservative Loses Upstate House Race in Blow to Right

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Yep, that's exactly what happened, you got it.

    How about NJ so sick of the left they turned right?

    Any comment there or are you going to spend the weeks ahead talking about the NY 23 race?
    Well, one is a Congressional race and one is local race. Why would we talk about the governor race when the New York Congressional race is the subject matter of the thread? Can you elighten me?

    (Hint. Don't bother. We both know you're pissed about the Congressional race. )

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    Re: Conservative Loses Upstate House Race in Blow to Right

    As of 430AM Wend. morning it was still to close to be called.

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    Re: Conservative Loses Upstate House Race in Blow to Right

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    As of 430AM Wend. morning it was still to close to be called.
    Link? The New York Times seems to think it's over, and the numbers look pretty decisive to me. How is a lead of over four percent "too close to call"?

    Winner: Bill Owens
    Bill Owens Dem. 63,496 49.3%
    Doug Hoffman Con. 58,161 45.2
    Last edited by WillRockwell; 11-04-09 at 06:48 AM.

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    Re: Conservative Loses Upstate House Race in Blow to Right

    [QUOTE=Scorpion89;1058343904]As of 430AM Wend. morning it was still to close to be called.[/QUOTE?

    Perhaps the Republans will be able to drag this through the courts and stall it for months.

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    Re: Conservative Loses Upstate House Race in Blow to Right

    [quote=goldendog;1058343936]
    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    As of 430AM Wend. morning it was still to close to be called.[/QUOTE?

    Perhaps the Republans will be able to drag this through the courts and stall it for months.
    It's over, no one is saying "too close to call". The Fox News website doesn't mention the story at all, that seems to be their reaction to news that doesn't spin their way.

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    Re: Conservative Loses Upstate House Race in Blow to Right

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post

    It's over, no one is saying "too close to call". The Fox News website doesn't mention the story at all, that seems to be their reaction to news that doesn't spin their way.
    Fox was the first to call it for Owens last night, from what I saw. CNN hadn't called it yet, and MSNBC was still calling it too close even a few hours later.
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