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Conservative Loses Upstate House Race in Blow to Right

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the only polls that are real were just counted

tuesday nite


Yes, and the Dems won two out of two Congressional seats. :cool:
Nancy Pelosi now has two more votes for health care and more :)
 
virginia, the most bellwether state in the nation: +18

new jersey, as blue as it gets: 25 point shift towards red in a year

have fun, friend



Why is VA the most bellwether state in the nation? It's been red since the 60s for presidential (obviously missing Carter, Clinton, and Clinton elections). For gubernatorial, it always votes the opposite party that won the white house the year before. It held up to its history, didn't do anything different on Tuesday.


I thought Missouri was the most bellwether of states (altho MO did miss the pres election last time ... )

NJ was a big win for the Republicans. No doubt about it.
 
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don't get too pumped over walnut creek

if she had the votes she wouldn't say, "we're close"

she wouldn't say "we will" have them

she'd say she has em

she'd have already voted, indeed

as is, she's rolling the dice and, even if she gets 7, she has no chance upstairs

ask lieberman, who speaks for at least half a dozen

mri is very, very key, you're right

VA is more signal for the same reasons florida was in 2000 and ohio in 04

if mccain had taken VA, this election MIGHT have gone his way

going into november, it very much looked like whoever took VA would likely win

mri's in much the same category, good point
 
don't get too pumped over walnut creek


What is walnut creek?


(I'm only coming up with Little House on the Prairie and Laura Ingalls, off the top of my head :lol: )
 
thanks!

walnut creek is garamendi's CA10, the other house seat

it's about 25 miles inland from SF

it's where I, The pompous Prof, grew up

actually, i was raised in lafayette, ca, just one hamlet west of walnut creek

walnut creek is where ms ellen tauscher was congresswoman who was promoted to state dept, thus making for special election

garamendi is a big CA dem who's won state wide at least twice

he was insurance commissioner, and about 10 years ago he was involved in some pretty ugly scandal

but he set his sights lower, just like jerry brown and willie brown

jerry, son of pat (2 time governor) was like his dad gov of CA (he was moonbeam brown back then cuz he was kinda nutty, that's when he dated linda ronstadt)

(i tell you these things cuz i bet you remember)

willie was forever speaker of CA assembly until we voted in term limits

so jerry moved down to become mayor of street gang infested oakland

and willie became mayor of sf

well, just like that, garamendi stooped down to beat harmer for ca10, walnut creek

walnut creek used to be rep'd by bill baker, one of the loudest gun rights voices in the nation

but he got gerrymandered, thus tauscher

the point---that gerrymander left walnut creek about two to one dem

so, yeah, it was a given that it'd go blue

unlike ny23

interestingly, there was a TOTAL media blackout---even here---concerning CA10

i, for instance, me, The pompous Prof, didn't even know the republican's name until fox news started running his ads about a week before the election

not a single poll, not one

i don't live in the district anymore, tho i'm nearby

mr harmer knocked on the door of one of my best friends

that's about all i knew about the race, and you know how deep i get into these things, until 9:00 pacific time tuesday when kofy channel 20 reported the early returns

garamendi was up by 17 with 29% in, so i went to bed

9:00 is several hours past my bedtime, i'm very very old

take care, my friend, it's 8:45 here, and...

LOL!

cliff
 
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(i tell you these things cuz i bet you remember)



garamendi was up by 17 with 29% in, so i went to bed

9:00 is several hours past my bedtime, i'm very very old

take care, my friend, it's 8:45 here, and...

LOL!

cliff


LOL ~ yes, I do remember that stuff about Jerry et al. 11.45 here ... I'm medium old ;). Bedtime here as well tho!

Nite, friend!

:)
 
thanks!

walnut creek is garamendi's CA10, the other house seat

it's about 25 miles inland from SF

cliff

I heard that the previous Dem winner in that district got 65% of the vote, but it dropped to 53% on Tuesday. Like you said, very little news on this race. Do you know if the percentage really dropped that much?
 
Name one lefty commentator who has such infuence over the current VP?


VP? Hell, why go to the VP, just pull up the recent meeting in the Oval Office with the man himself, with Olbermann, Maddow, Schultz, and Gwen Iffel. Not well reported or acknowledged though.


j-mac
 
I heard that the previous Dem winner in that district got 65% of the vote, but it dropped to 53% on Tuesday. Like you said, very little news on this race. Do you know if the percentage really dropped that much?

53%, wow, no, i did not know that

i live here and there is still no coverage

garamendi is on this am's morning meeting, msnbc, with dylan rattigan, to talk about his stance relative to health care tomorrow

that's all i know, thanks for the update, friend gill

cliff
 
very underreported, first i've heard of it, this morning on howie kurtz' reliable sources

dems have their own ny23 "problem" in the far west

greenie outsider mcginn beats establishment mallahan for seattle mayor

McGinn leads Mallahan in Seattle mayor's race

also underreported, also via kurtz

reds win across the board in pennsylvania locals

Commonwealth of PA - Elections Information

other than the links, i have no active role in the above transmission of info, i simply channel kurtz

but i'd like to contribute this:

PN, as you probably know, is one step on the dem side of the VA divide, just as NJ is two or more shades bluer

just as IN is on the republican side of the VA wall

that is, it's almost inconceivable that VA would go red and IN blue (which it did, IN, that's how big was obama's victory in november, he took quayle's state)

PN is very, very bellwether

most my life it's been a lucy-holding-the-football tease, not quite as frustrating for my side as NJ, but close

PN changing colors, in our national spectrum, is HUGE
 
I heard that the previous Dem winner in that district got 65% of the vote, but it dropped to 53% on Tuesday. Like you said, very little news on this race. Do you know if the percentage really dropped that much?

Doesn't matter....we went from a weak moderate Democrat to a strong one.
As long as they carry the district...I'd rather have a good one win by a few less points.
 
Doesn't matter....we went from a weak moderate Democrat to a strong one.
As long as they carry the district...I'd rather have a good one win by a few less points.

So a "good" democrat got 12% fewer votes than a weak one, and you're happy??? :spin:
 
VP? Hell, why go to the VP, just pull up the recent meeting in the Oval Office with the man himself, with Olbermann, Maddow, Schultz, and Gwen Iffel. Not well reported or acknowledged though.


j-mac

So when Obama met with the Right at George Will's house, what devious plots were cooked up that night?
 
gallup has republicans leading dems by 4 in latest generic, a gain of 6 since last month, +12 since july

independents, meanwhile, prefer red by 22

Republicans Edge Ahead of Democrats in 2010 Vote

rasmussen, the most accurate pollster in 04, 06 and 08, currently has generic GOP up by 8

the founder of espn (rasmussen) also finds prez approval at a near all time low of 46, with 53 disinclined

Daily Presidential Tracking Poll - Rasmussen Reports

in further developments, progressives are prodigiously pissed at stupak, pitts and the traitorous 39

Health vote pits Democrat vs. Democrat - Alex Isenstadt - POLITICO.com

(obama supporters are just so darned headline-challenged, there really ARE no positive developments to link to)

the ny23 phenomenon AGAINST the party in power is now nationwide

it's precisely what propelled mayor mcginn to 2-wheeled victory in starbucks city, seattle

Mallahan concedes Seattle mayor race; McGinn wins
 
I heard that the previous Dem winner in that district got 65% of the vote, but it dropped to 53% on Tuesday. Like you said, very little news on this race. Do you know if the percentage really dropped that much?

For intents and purposes, there have been no Democrats elected from the core of this district in 100 years. At one time the 23rd included Schenectady and parts of Albany, very blue counties, but not now. No Democrat could ever get elected from the Adirondack counties without the Republicans giving it to them.
 
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For intents and purposes, there have been no Democrats elected from the core of this district in 100 years. At one time the 23rd included Schenectady and parts of Albany, very blue counties, but not now. No Democrat could ever get elected from the Adirondack counties without the Republicans giving it to them.

I wasn't talking about NY-23 in this comment. I was stating a fact regarding the California congressional race in response to a comment from the Prof.
 
more intra party disputation in the empire state

and it's a lot bigger than tiny 23

governor paterson rips the president for wanting to try ksm in the apple

Paterson Rips White House For NYC 9/11 Trial - wcbstv.com

meanwhile, third party candidate doug hoffman "unconceded" today on beck

whether he formally gives in or not is really moot, if the fastly narrowing count does indeed go the third party guy's way, he'll be sworn in regardless

to be honest (as always), hoffman ultimately taking tiny 23 is a distant longshot

he'd have to earn a plurality of 2000 with only 10000 absentees out

still, the quirky candidate did remarkably well for a rep from a minor party, came within a point or so
 
I thought that "All My ****ed Up Children" was cancelled on television????
 
Yes this is the first election we've seen in a long time where a group of voters of one side was so sick of the other the country's leadership swung from Right to left OR VISA VERSA.

Do the rabid righties ever get tired of trying to have it both ways in every topic on this forum?

It is quite laughtable not only to me...but the whole world.

What is laughable to me is people switch their votes from a R to a D or a D to a R and expect a different outcome and are genuinely surprised when things remain much the same.
 
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