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Racial disparity: All active ethics probes focus on black lawmakers

I think it is, could be wrong. The majority has a majority of course, at least the Chair.
 
RightinNYC said:
I don't doubt that we do, but I also find it hard to believe that we don't have a single white crook.

Just in terms of statistics, this is a pretty improbable situation.
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Hmmmmmmm.... let's see.

Blacks form 13.4% of the US population. (2006)

[ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_States]Demographics of the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]


Blacks commit 53.7% of violent crimes and 38.3% of property crimes in the US. (2006)

Bureau of Justice Statistics Key Facts at a Glance Percent of crime reported to police by race

Somebody do the math.....
 
liblady said:
violent crime and property crime aren't ethical violations.
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Are you saying it is ethical to steal or kill/injure someone? :confused:
 
of course not, but those aren't the types of behaviors being investigated by the ethic committee.
 
RightinNYC said:
It's obviously not a given, but if you want to argue that black people are more likely to be corrupt than white people by some significant factor, feel free to take the stage.



Math says it.

I don't feel like doing the numbers out right now, but try to calculate the probability that 8 people selected from a group of 435 would all be part of a 41 member subset of that group of 435.

Unless there is some other factor at play, such as black officials being 20 times more corrupt than white officials or the OCE pursuing black officials for some other reason, this is incredibly unlikely.

edit: Assuming an even distribution, the odds are 1 in 160,562,159.
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Is that taking into account that the sample set is constantly shifting? I mean, right now it might be all black, but how often is it all black members? It's a fluid sample, in constant flux given a number of other factors like, for instance, who is acting openly corrupt and who may be influencing who.

I don't see it all that improbable that it could be, at differing points, all white, all black, all democrat, all republican, all bald men, all men, all women...

What I am saying is, like most human affairs, it's probably a lot more complicated than can be quantified by statistics.
 
RightinNYC said:
Racial disparity: All active ethics probes focus on black lawmakers - John Bresnahan - POLITICO.com





I don't presume to have an explanation for this disparity, but it's certainly startling regardless of how you look at it.
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We know the others are already corrupt. This is to see if there are any uncorrupted politicians.

But in reality, will we seriously ever get some amount of accountability out of Congress? Why does everything they do have to be so royally ****ed up?
 
This is one of 3 things:

1. 7 Corrupt Congress members were so blatant they got the attention of the authorities.

2. Racism is alive and well in America

3. Black people are inherently criminal/black culture is corrupted.

I believe the answer is 1, but take what you will from it.
 
I think it's more of a statistical anomaly that only 7 congress members are being investigated for ethics violations.
 
Tucker Case said:
I think it's more of a statistical anomaly that only 7 congress members are being investigated for ethics violations.
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I think it's more like looking in a 40 year old septic tank and only finding 7 turds..... obviously, you weren’t looking that close.
 
Agnapostate said:
What does national black crime, typically related to indigence or a lack of human capital, have to do with the alleged ethics violations of well-to-do blacks among the political class?
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Well gee whiz..... 13% of the population commits 57% of the crime. Could it be that the % of Black Congress critters under investigation might match the demographics? Could the same be said for the number of White Congress critters?… statistically speaking.
 
Crunch said:
Well gee whiz..... 13% of the population commits 57% of the crime. Could it be that the % of Black Congress critters under investigation might match the demographics? Could the same be said for the number of White Congress critters?… statistically speaking.
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Apparently you didn't read the question correctly. Let's try that again: "What does national black crime, typically related to indigence or a lack of human capital, have to do with the alleged ethics violations of well-to-do blacks among the political class?"
 
the makeout hobo said:
Whats the make up of the ethics committee?
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5 and 5 Dem v. Rep, 9 white, 1 black.

Agnapostate said:
What does national black crime, typically related to indigence or a lack of human capital, have to do with the alleged ethics violations of well-to-do blacks among the political class?
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Absolutely nothing, but trying to explain that to him will just result in him repeating the same thing over again, convinced that he's won the argument.
 
liblady said:
of course not, but those aren't the types of behaviors being investigated by the ethic committee.
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So it's possible that there is an ethical problem within the Black community?… you know, a high crime rate? Isn’t that what the Ethics Committee is investigating?… Crime?.. Or etiquette in the Senate dinning room?
 
RightinNYC said:
5 and 5 Dem v. Rep, 9 white, 1 black.



Absolutely nothing, but trying to explain that to him will just result in him repeating the same thing over again, convinced that he's won the argument.
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Pot meet kettle..........
 
Agnapostate said:
Apparently you didn't read the question correctly. Let's try that again: "What does national black crime, typically related to indigence or a lack of human capital, have to do with the alleged ethics violations of well-to-do blacks among the political class?"
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See post 44.
 
Crunch said:
See post 44.
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This isn't the thread to ramble about what you consider inherent immoralities of blacks. This is a thread suited to discussion of the investigation of specific political figures that lack the indigence of the general black population.
 
Crunch are you suggesting that people who've made it to the higher levels of our government are just as likely as a population with disproportionate levels of unemployment and incarceration because of the fact they are of the same particular race group? To be a little more blunt are you suggesting that a nigger is a nigger regardless of whether he's wearing a du-rag or suit & tie?

Personally I think this is an anomaly but it's still possible. The chance of winning a few hundred million dollars is a lot of times in the millions. But it happens. Several times a year. So I don't know.
 
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RightinNYC said:
Racial disparity: All active ethics probes focus on black lawmakers - John Bresnahan - POLITICO.com





I don't presume to have an explanation for this disparity, but it's certainly startling regardless of how you look at it.
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It's only about race if all someone SEES is their race.

I didn't realize that some of those people were even black - I had honestly never thought about it and nor do I give a crap.

I don't elect my representatives based on their photos - I don't know about everyone else's - but my balots have all been photo-less.
 
Agnapostate said:
This isn't the thread to ramble about what you consider inherent immoralities of blacks. This is a thread suited to discussion of the investigation of specific political figures that lack the indigence of the general black population.
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Hmmmm.... median annual income in the US for whites is $42,422.

Median annual income in the US for Blacks is $32,021.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_income_in_the_United_States#Race

Doesn't sound like indigence is the cause.

Now back to my point that you seem to be totally oblivious to... maybe this isn't anything to do with being a racist probe, but the inherent lack of ethics in the Race of the people under investigation… nurture, not genetics.
 
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