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    Re: Al Gore could become world's first carbon billionaire

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    You are aware that logging companies plant trees?
    Libbos will never admit that timber companies do more for conservation than the Libbos do. Just like hunters. The Libbos wish they could do as much for wildlife and wildlife habitat conservation that groups like Ducks Unlimited do.
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    Re: Al Gore could become world's first carbon billionaire

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    Oh yeah, the sky is falling and we need to tax the crap out of everyone to stop it. Also, we need to waste billions on alternate energy sources that are nowhere near maturity and will only cost the people even more money, above and beyond the extra taxes. Hey, I get it!!!
    Hmmm sometimes a picture is worth a thousand words like when the Cuyahoga River caught on fire from pollution.


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    Re: Al Gore could become world's first carbon billionaire

    If it were Bush making money on oil, you'd be okay with it right?
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    Re: Al Gore could become world's first carbon billionaire

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Hmmm sometimes a picture is worth a thousand words like when the Cuyahoga River caught on fire from pollution.

    Well, ya see, that's where you Libbos go wrong. You try and attach pollution with Global Warming. If you all would have just stuck to the pollution agenda, you would be alot farther ahead, but this GW hoax, screwed ya'll.
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    Re: Al Gore could become world's first carbon billionaire

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That's not true. Timber companies invest in growing trees all the time.



    Oh yeah, the sky is falling and we need to tax the crap out of everyone to stop it. Also, we need to waste billions on alternate energy sources that are nowhere near maturity and will only cost the people even more money, above and beyond the extra taxes. Hey, I get it!!!
    If trees are such a good investment - why are there not more being grown? We are deforesting our planet at an alarming rate and there is little incentive to stop it. I am betting that you, like us actually have legislation that forces loggers to replant - that logging companies get subsidies. I will also bet that the trees most often regrown are fast growing pines. Some of the best wearing longest lasting trees in the world are the Australian hardwoods - ruddy hard to find anyone investing in growing Ironbark or Ironwood trees.

    Tell me - you have a choice of putting money into one investment that will return 10% profit over 5 years or put it into another investment that might or might not give you 20% profit but you have to wait 20 years to collect - which one will you choose?

    And you are making the argument for me - you are saying that these alternate energy sources are nowhere near maturity and yet the only way they will mature is by investment of capital - which Gore is going - and taking the requisite risks
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    Re: Al Gore could become world's first carbon billionaire

    I don't think I'll be making billions but I want a carbon footprint as big as Algore's.

    What does Obamer have to say about this level of profit?

    Has Algore checked with Czar Obamer to make sure it's OK to make those profits?

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    Re: Al Gore could become world's first carbon billionaire

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    I don't think I'll be making billions but I want a carbon footprint as big as Algore's.

    What does Obamer have to say about this level of profit?

    Has Algore checked with Czar Obamer to make sure it's OK to make those profits?

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    What does Obama have to do with Gore investing in a company?
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    Re: Al Gore could become world's first carbon billionaire

    Quote Originally Posted by bowerbird View Post
    If trees are such a good investment - why are there not more being grown? We are deforesting our planet at an alarming rate and there is little incentive to stop it. I am betting that you, like us actually have legislation that forces loggers to replant - that logging companies get subsidies. I will also bet that the trees most often regrown are fast growing pines. Some of the best wearing longest lasting trees in the world are the Australian hardwoods - ruddy hard to find anyone investing in growing Ironbark or Ironwood trees.
    On a global scale, you are correct. But, timber, paper, logging companies here in the states and Canada, have figured out that their future lies in re-planting.

    Tell me - you have a choice of putting money into one investment that will return 10% profit over 5 years or put it into another investment that might or might not give you 20% profit but you have to wait 20 years to collect - which one will you choose?
    neither! If I can't see a 100% return in five years- I'm not spending the money. But, that's just me.

    And you are making the argument for me - you are saying that these alternate energy sources are nowhere near maturity and yet the only way they will mature is by investment of capital - which Gore is going - and taking the requisite risks

    All the investment of capital in the world isn't going to speed up the evolution of alternate energy. Research and developement is the only thing that is going to speed them up. Yes, that costs money, but the point is, no matter how much money you spend on them now, it's not going to make them become practical any sooner. The oil companies have spent billions on alternate energy and don't have **** to show for it.
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    Re: Al Gore could become world's first carbon billionaire

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That's not true. Timber companies invest in growing trees all the time.
    Please provide where they grow more trees then they cut down.
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    Re: Al Gore could become world's first carbon billionaire

    Quote Originally Posted by bowerbird View Post
    If trees are such a good investment - why are there not more being grown?
    They are being grown. Loggers plant trees to keep their company going. Tree farms grow trees to meet the demands of different consumers.


    We are deforesting our planet at an alarming rate and there is little incentive to stop it. I am betting that you, like us actually have legislation that forces loggers to replant - that logging companies get subsidies.
    Loggers replant because it is an investment, if they didn't replant then they would eventually run out.

    I will also bet that the trees most often regrown are fast growing pines.
    I imagine that since logging companies also make money of hickory, walnut, cherry, red oak,white oak, fir, cedar, poplar and other kinds of wood they probably plant those varieties too. You seem to be under the impression that logging companies only want to exist for a decade or two and then quit. A logging company not planting any trees is like car dealership not ordering any new cars from a factory or buying used cars.
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