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    Re: Iraqi woman, 20, dies; police in Arizona say father ran her over

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    Iraqi woman, 20, dies; police in Arizona say father ran her over - CNN.com
    Iraqi woman, 20, dies; police in Arizona say father ran her over

    So now it's murder !!!
    CNN) -- A 20-year-old woman from Iraq has died in an Arizona hospital, nearly two weeks after her father, police say, ran her over with a car because she had become "too Westernized."
    "Peoria police said Faleh Hassan Almaleki believed his daughter had become "too Westernized" and had abandoned "traditional" Iraqi values. "

    These are the type of immigrants that we do not need or want in this country. Technically I am an immigrant myself but my family came here from a civilized continent and with European values so we eventually fit in. There is no way to filter out crud like this murderer but maybe we need to go back to limiting certain types of ethnic groups or religions from coming here.

    If this buffoon did not want his daughter to get “Westernized” then he should have stayed were they behave like animals.
    No actually I like animals and they behave better than this bacteria !!
    I agree with that.I think that if he didn't want his daughter to get too westernized then he shouldn't move his family to a western country. No one said he had to move here. You do not move your family to another country and expect no one in your family to not assimilate. There are plenty of countries that treat women as property,make them or brain wash them to wear burqas due to some closet homosexuals who might be offended by the female body and to do what ever the **** the man says no questions asked. Its like a Christian(real christian not a liberal pretending to be a christian) moving to San Francisco and complaining about all the gays and trannys there or an anti-2nd amendment nut liberal moving to Oklahoma and complaining about how pro-2nd amendment the state is or all the churches there or someone from Florida moving to Canada or Alaska and complaining that it is cold there.
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    Re: Iraqi woman, 20, dies; police in Arizona say father ran her over

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    Iraqi woman, 20, dies; police in Arizona say father ran her over - CNN.com
    Iraqi woman, 20, dies; police in Arizona say father ran her over

    So now it's murder !!!
    CNN) -- A 20-year-old woman from Iraq has died in an Arizona hospital, nearly two weeks after her father, police say, ran her over with a car because she had become "too Westernized."
    "Peoria police said Faleh Hassan Almaleki believed his daughter had become "too Westernized" and had abandoned "traditional" Iraqi values. "

    These are the type of immigrants that we do not need or want in this country. Technically I am an immigrant myself but my family came here from a civilized continent and with European values so we eventually fit in. There is no way to filter out crud like this murderer but maybe we need to go back to limiting certain types of ethnic groups or religions from coming here.

    If this buffoon did not want his daughter to get “Westernized” then he should have stayed were they behave like animals. No actually I like animals and they behave better than this bacteria !!
    of course what he did is despicable. every murder is despicable, and plenty of natural born americans commit them.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Iraqi woman, 20, dies; police in Arizona say father ran her over

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    This isn't the first time i've heard about this type of thing. And I'm quite sure it won't be the last.
    The other day I read yet another story of domestic violence, involving yet another man pounding so hard on his better half she ended up in the ER and died from her injuries. Not too long before that, I read about this guy who was so jealous when his wife left him for another man, he showed up at her place and stabbed both her and the new boyfriend to death. Should I list all the stories of men who have shot their ex-wives/GF because these women had the audacity of leaving them? None of them were Muslim.

    I'm sure it won't be long before I read about yet another similar case involving some troglodyte bludgeoning his woman to death. I mean it's perfectly obvious to me from these stories than ALL men are complete savage animals.

    ALL of them.

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    Re: Iraqi woman, 20, dies; police in Arizona say father ran her over

    I think that America is facing the same problem that Ayaan Hirsi Ali pointed out in the Netherlands. It's fine to allow legal immigration. However, we need to do something to ensure that people who emigrate here adopt western values and assimilate gracefully into our system.

    Multiculturalism is not going to help us here. Some Islamic values are simply not compatible within a western democracy. This would include, of course, killing one's children for failing to adhere to one's religious views.

    It seems to me that what is needed are classes on what it means to live in a western democracy BEFORE someone is allowed to immigrate.

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    Re: Iraqi woman, 20, dies; police in Arizona say father ran her over

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Multiculturalism is not going to help us here. Some Islamic values are simply not compatible within a western democracy. This would include, of course, killing one's children for failing to adhere to one's religious views.
    I hope you're going to make all those Jehova's Witnesses and weird Christian fundies, who shun conventional medicine and rely on God and the power of prayer to cure their kids cancers, attend those classes too.
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    Re: Iraqi woman, 20, dies; police in Arizona say father ran her over

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    I hope you're going to make all those Jehova's Witnesses and weird Christian fundies, who shun conventional medicine and rely on God and the power of prayer to cure their kids cancers, attend those classes too.
    This is a false dichotomy. We have every right to ask people who desire to immigrate here to jump through hoops to show that they are willing to adapt to our society. They are, after all, asking a favor of us.

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    Re: Iraqi woman, 20, dies; police in Arizona say father ran her over

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    The other day I read yet another story of domestic violence, involving yet another man pounding so hard on his better half she ended up in the ER and died from her injuries. Not too long before that, I read about this guy who was so jealous when his wife left him for another man, he showed up at her place and stabbed both her and the new boyfriend to death. Should I list all the stories of men who have shot their ex-wives/GF because these women had the audacity of leaving them? None of them were Muslim.

    I'm sure it won't be long before I read about yet another similar case involving some troglodyte bludgeoning his woman to death. I mean it's perfectly obvious to me from these stories than ALL men are complete savage animals.

    ALL of them.

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    The difference is 9 times outta 10 those that you just mentioned did it out of jealousy or rage. I've never heard of some islamic dad killing thier kid for reasons other than the cult they follow.
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    Re: Iraqi woman, 20, dies; police in Arizona say father ran her over

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    This is a false dichotomy. We have every right to ask people who desire to immigrate here to jump through hoops to show that they are willing to adapt to our society. They are, after all, asking a favor of us.
    Considering the (according to some) frightening numbers of Muslim immigrants flooding into the West, these cases are few and far between. No matter how carefully you screen them, you will not stop the honor killing practice which is largely cultural and not religious in nature. Your best bet if you want to avoid it is to completely halt immigration from certain specific Muslim countries where honor killings are most common and just accept Indonesian and other Asian Muslims where honor killing is practically unheard of.
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    Re: Iraqi woman, 20, dies; police in Arizona say father ran her over

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    Considering the (according to some) frightening numbers of Muslim immigrants flooding into the West, these cases are few and far between. No matter how carefully you screen them, you will not stop the honor killing practice which is largely cultural and not religious in nature. Your best bet if you want to avoid it is to completely halt immigration from certain specific Muslim countries where honor killings are most common and just accept Indonesian and other Asian Muslims where honor killing is practically unheard of.
    OK. If it's not religious, but cultural, then why did you bring up Jehovah's Witnesses and "Christian fundies"?
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    Re: Iraqi woman, 20, dies; police in Arizona say father ran her over

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    The difference is 9 times outta 10 those that you just mentioned did it out of jealousy or rage. I've never heard of some islamic dad killing thier kid for reasons other than the cult they follow.
    I don't believe the religion is the reason they do it. Cultural traditions are much more of a factor. I don't have time to pull up the links right now, but if you look into where most honor killings take place, you'll find that they're concentrated in specific tribal areas in specific countries and not all of them Muslim. India is one non-Muslim country where honor killings still happen, although for different reasons than in Muslim countries. However, if you look at Indonesia or Malaysia, you'll find the practice is almost unheard of.
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