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    Re: 21-gun salute for ship built with 9/11 steel

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    21-gun salute for ship built with 9/11 steel - Military- msnbc.com

    Honoring those who fell with a ship of war. Nice.
    One of the best ways to honor them I say !!! Most right thinking people would agree!!
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    Re: 21-gun salute for ship built with 9/11 steel

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    Given the two useless wars being fought right now, the dollars and lives lost doing it, and the political strife in the aftermath, I find it incredibly ironic and twisted that the steel from the fallen towers was used to make another apparatus of war.

    It doesn't honor them. It disgraces them.
    First of all only one of the wars is useless - Iraq. The oher war that The Bush abandoned Afghanistan was the one we should have fought since that one was realted to 9-11.

    There is nothing wrong with making another a "apparatus of war. " What did you think was needed to fight wars, fast talking ?

    Too bad it will take another year to get the New York ready for a good war.
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    Re: 21-gun salute for ship built with 9/11 steel

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    And we apologize for France being ours.
    don't admit to it maybe people will forget !!
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    Re: 21-gun salute for ship built with 9/11 steel

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    It's more of the Twin Towers being an iconic symbol of the USA, not about simply the victims but about the US's lost as a nation.

    The ship making shows that even the ashes of the destroyed towers will be there to protect the people.

    But that's just a wild guess.

    ...'Nuff said...
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    Re: 21-gun salute for ship built with 9/11 steel

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    So, honouring the dead of the Twin Towers = okay and acceptable for conservatives.... guess it is because Bush ordered the ship.

    But honouring returning dead from war = horrible political photo op...?

    Interesting double standard there...

    One would think that honouring both would be on the mantra of the US right wing.. guess not.
    Hmmmm, let's see. Were the bodies of 9/11 victims used as a photo op to prop up a failing president and take people's eyes off all his **** up? Uh, no!
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    Re: 21-gun salute for ship built with 9/11 steel

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    Well, this is along the lines of what I was thinking. The terrorists wanted a war, they wanted unrest, they wanted the West to shed its peaceful veneer and get down and dirty. This is just playing right into it. I don't see how building a ship that will be used to attack countries, kill more innocent people, and breed a new generation of terrorists is going to help.

    Not to mention, the war in Afghanistan and Iraq will not yield long term results. Afghanistan is a mess right now, and the conflict has expanded well into Pakistan and the surrounding -stans. Sending more resources into the conflict when the strategy has no meaningful direction isn't intelligent.
    You seem so certain about everything, with no more expertise than I have. Your evaluation of the situation is not objective, no matter how much you might like to believe that it is, and your choice of wording to present your own opinion as if it were fact. It is impossible for you to emphatically state that no long term results will be yielded from the wars.

    Those instruments of war also kill bad guys. But that is glaringly absent from your "assesment" of the situation.
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    Re: 21-gun salute for ship built with 9/11 steel

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Hmmmm, let's see. Were the bodies of 9/11 victims used as a photo op to prop up a failing president and take people's eyes off all his **** up? Uh, no!
    Yet the Bush did use the ashes of the Towers for a photo op a couple days after 9-11. I know that you are completely wrong about smearing President Obama with the scurrilous accusations by falsing claiming that he performed a photo op at Dover. Did you guys forget the ultimate staged photo op by the Bush Shrub? REMEMBER MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!!!
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    Re: 21-gun salute for ship built with 9/11 steel

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    Given the two useless wars being fought right now, the dollars and lives lost doing it, and the political strife in the aftermath, I find it incredibly ironic and twisted that the steel from the fallen towers was used to make another apparatus of war.

    It doesn't honor them. It disgraces them.




    So left wing liberal hyper-partisan hackism is your issue with this....




    I think a ship for our brave boys and girls serving thier country honorably is a great way to honor the fallen (my friends, and family who died 11 September 2001), Sorry you value service members from the country that makes it so you all can spend your tax money on things like 3rd rate healthcare...
    Let evil swiftly befall those who have wrongly condemned us

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    Re: 21-gun salute for ship built with 9/11 steel

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    Yet the Bush did use the ashes of the Towers for a photo op a couple days after 9-11. I know that you are completely wrong about smearing President Obama with the scurrilous accusations by falsing claiming that he performed a photo op at Dover. Did you guys forget the ultimate staged photo op by the Bush Shrub? REMEMBER MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!!!
    Are you saying that PBO didn't accuse our soldiers of indiscriminately attacking civilians?

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S26C-rxIVW8"]YouTube - Barack Obama calls US troops baby killers by claiming they[/ame]
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: 21-gun salute for ship built with 9/11 steel

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    So left wing liberal hyper-partisan hackism is your issue with this....




    I think a ship for our brave boys and girls serving thier country honorably is a great way to honor the fallen (my friends, and family who died 11 September 2001), Sorry you value service members from the country that makes it so you all can spend your tax money on things like 3rd rate healthcare...
    Yeah!

    Remember The Alamo!

    Remember the Maine!

    Remember Pearl Harbor!

    Remember 9/11!
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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