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    Re: U.S. Congratulates Karzai on Winning Second Term

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    He ran the election and the idiot opposing him was the coward who backed out.

    You can't argue with these results.
    Maybe he backed out because if **** went wrong 40k troops would be on him like flies. It is a little harder to keep challenging the legitimacy of things with further impending invasion hanging over your head based on your decisions.
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    Re: U.S. Congratulates Karzai on Winning Second Term

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Whose puppet is he now?
    You are talking as if the change in president means much! You need to be looking at who is BEHIND Obama, and who was running your show prior to him getting into the White House.

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    Re: U.S. Congratulates Karzai on Winning Second Term

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    Your entire post relies on the one fact that you have failed to prove, that the current strategy is failing.
    What!!?? Is the current strat in Afghanistan not a Petreaus type surge that takes on not al-Qaeda, but the Taliban and their control over mountainside and 'rural' Afghanistan?

    The situation in Afghanistan is serious, but success is achievable and demands a revised implementation strategy, commitment and resolve, and increased unity of effort," General Stanley McChrystal said. His findings will be submitted to President Barack Obama, who faces a public increasingly restive over a war that has lasted eight years.
    Afghanistan strategy must change, US commander General McChrystal says | World news | guardian.co.uk

    Or how about:

    The top U.S. and NATO commander in Afghanistan warns in an urgent, confidential assessment of the war that he needs more forces within the next year and bluntly states that without them, the eight-year conflict "will likely result in failure,"
    McChrystal: More Forces or 'Mission Failure' - washingtonpost.com

    I haven't seen any evidence that our military efforts will fail if McChrystal was given the resources he requested.
    And if he's not given resources he requested?

    Changing strategy does not equate to the current strategy failing.
    So when Bush decided on surging in Iraq, his strat to date wasn't failing? Oh....where were you when Bush was President, we could have used your arguments here!

    IMHO, I would rather us focus on Al-Q and eliminating the group that attacked us in 2001 then liberating a country that doesn't care to try and liberate themselves.
    Speaking of short sighted and unrealistic.
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    Re: U.S. Congratulates Karzai on Winning Second Term

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    You are more concerned with the timing of a decision than you are with the content of such a decision. That mentality is what got us into the mess in the first place.



    Why don't you just claim I punch puppies and be done with it. Your point you want to attribute to me is malformed.


    I wan't this president to stop fiddling while our troops are in harms way.
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    Re: U.S. Congratulates Karzai on Winning Second Term

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    What exactly is the goal in Afghanistan with the additional troops? Are we trying to remove the Taliban from control? Are we ending corruption in the government? Are we forcing the people of Afghan to, for once in their life, fight for control of their country from?

    Or are you for just throwing troops lives away into a pointless war?

    I don't see the point of "liberating" people who don't care to be liberated.



    uhm. Again you silly liberals... Attributing positions to me that I don't hold.....




    I think Obama should withdraw, he is far to indecisive and lacks the leadership skills to prosecute this war.
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    Re: U.S. Congratulates Karzai on Winning Second Term

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Why don't you just claim I punch puppies and be done with it. Your point you want to attribute to me is malformed.


    I wan't this president to stop fiddling while our troops are in harms way.
    You just want him to put more troops in harms way?
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    Re: U.S. Congratulates Karzai on Winning Second Term

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    You just want him to put more troops in harms way?
    Yeah, so? Isn't that what they do?
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    Re: U.S. Congratulates Karzai on Winning Second Term

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    You just want him to put more troops in harms way?



    If you are not going to read what I am actually posting, then perhaps we should find something else to entertain oneself.



    I am not for more troops.
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    Re: U.S. Congratulates Karzai on Winning Second Term

    I believe Gen McChrystal also wants to put more troops in harm's way. What does that make him?
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    Re: U.S. Congratulates Karzai on Winning Second Term

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel View Post
    And if he's not given resources he requested?
    Then it will likely fail. That doesn't not mean the current strategy is failing. It just means that if the strategy isn't given the resources it needs it will fail.

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel View Post
    So when Bush decided on surging in Iraq, his strat to date wasn't failing? Oh....where were you when Bush was President, we could have used your arguments here!
    You need to step out of your black and white world. Bush's strategy would have worked great if he gave the proper resources and didn't underestimate the enemy. The surge wasn't a change in strategy it was a SURGE of resources to help the current failing strategy.

    The difference is Bush thought we could win with the allocated resources, which was failing. Obama is deciding if the current strategy in Afghan is even worth keeping.

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel View Post
    Speaking of short sighted and unrealistic.
    Yes.
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