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    Obama administration: Toss wiretap lawsuit

    WASHINGTON Attorney General Eric Holder says a lawsuit in San Francisco over warrantless wiretapping threatens to expose ongoing intelligence work and must be thrown out.

    In making the argument, the Obama administration agreed with the Bush administration's position on the case but insists it came to the decision differently. A civil liberties group criticized the move Friday as a retreat from promises President Barack Obama made as a candidate.

    Holder's effort to stop the lawsuit marks the first time the administration has tried to invoke the state secrets privilege under a new policy it launched last month designed to make such a legal argument more difficult.


    The Associated Press: Obama administration: Toss wiretap lawsuit


    Hmmmm.... Another broken promise from Barry? At least he seems to be a consistent liar, Equal opportunity and all.....


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    Re: Obama administration: Toss wiretap lawsuit

    *crickets*
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    Re: Obama administration: Toss wiretap lawsuit

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Hmmmm.... Another broken promise from Barry? At least he seems to be a consistent liar, Equal opportunity and all.....


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    What a brilliant analysis of the story and the relevance of the individual case involved.

    You've outdone yourself, j-mac.

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    Re: Obama administration: Toss wiretap lawsuit

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    What a brilliant analysis of the story and the relevance of the individual case involved.

    You've outdone yourself, j-mac.
    Any comment on the fact that Obama is yet again hewing to a Bush Administration policy that it criticized during the campaign, or would you rather just attack the messenger?
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    Re: Obama administration: Toss wiretap lawsuit

    This is a smart decision. Sometimes, it's going to be necessary to listen in on phone calls. Our national security depends on that ability.
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    Re: Obama administration: Toss wiretap lawsuit

    I agree. For what it's worth.


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    Re: Obama administration: Toss wiretap lawsuit

    When Bush was spying on Americans, I called for his impeachment. Now that it turns out that Obama is doing the same, I call for his impeachment. Spying on Americans is not something that America does. It is something that the old Soviet Union did. It is not a good thing to know that our last 2 presidents support Soviet policies, and taking actions that suppress freedom, rather than enhance it.

    Obama should resign his presidency over this, and if the American people have any cahonas at all, they should unelect each and every Democrat and Republican that supported Bush in this, and who are supporting Obama now, either directly, or by their unamerican inaction.

    This is disgusting. Citizens should not be afraid of their government. The government should be afraid of its citizens.
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    Re: Obama administration: Toss wiretap lawsuit

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    When Bush was spying on Americans, I called for his impeachment. Now that it turns out that Obama is doing the same, I call for his impeachment. Spying on Americans is not something that America does. It is something that the old Soviet Union did. It is not a good thing to know that our last 2 presidents support Soviet policies, and taking actions that suppress freedom, rather than enhance it.

    Obama should resign his presidency over this, and if the American people have any cahonas at all, they should unelect each and every Democrat and Republican that supported Bush in this, and who are supporting Obama now, either directly, or by their unamerican inaction.

    This is disgusting. Citizens should not be afraid of their government. The government should be afraid of its citizens.
    What a quaint, antiquated idea. Do you still believe in Santa Clause and the Tooth Fairy?

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    Re: Obama administration: Toss wiretap lawsuit

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    When Bush was spying on Americans, I called for his impeachment. Now that it turns out that Obama is doing the same, I call for his impeachment. Spying on Americans is not something that America does. It is something that the old Soviet Union did. It is not a good thing to know that our last 2 presidents support Soviet policies, and taking actions that suppress freedom, rather than enhance it.

    Obama should resign his presidency over this, and if the American people have any cahonas at all, they should unelect each and every Democrat and Republican that supported Bush in this, and who are supporting Obama now, either directly, or by their unamerican inaction.

    This is disgusting. Citizens should not be afraid of their government. The government should be afraid of its citizens.
    That's a tad dramatic, isn't it? I don't agree with warrantless wiretapping but to leave the country presidentless over the continuation of another's policies is simply not worth it. By all means launch an investigation but geeez.
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    Re: Obama administration: Toss wiretap lawsuit

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Spying on Americans is not something that America does.
    What alternative dimension do you come from? I mean seriously, the US government regardless of party colour has spied on its own citizens since forever. In the 1940s it was against "nazies and japs", in the 1950s to this century it was "commies, lefties and others undesirables" and now days it is anyone with even a remote link to the Islamic world. And that is not even including those Presidents and heads of the intelligence communities that used their positions to spy on rivals..

    And like it or not, it is not "government" that is doing this, it is so called well meaning elected officials that often demand it and in some rare cases it is elected officials that are not well meaning but hell bent on gaining more power. Government is only the tool. And dont think the private sector is any better.
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