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    Re: Somali pirates ask $7 million to free UK couple-report

    Quote Originally Posted by GySgt View Post
    Really? Is this Philosophy 101? Because last I checked U.S. citizens have contributed to the world's progress for hundreds of years. When's the last time a Somali went to the moon or invented a cure for anything? Which Somali car do you prefer? Maybe even a well built toaster?

    Now, I don't believe one human being has worth over another. But the political correct answer to life's unfortunate realities serves nothing other than a personal satisfaction that you are better than others. In the end...you are like everybody else and would gladly accept the slaughter of others for your safety.
    Nah, they can't even build a crappy one of those. If you want a crappy toaster, get one of those Chinese made ones over at Wal-Mart.
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    Re: Somali pirates ask $7 million to free UK couple-report

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    What Somali government?
    It is a coalition of tribes that agree that Somalia should have a future with the advancing world. Our attitude that Somalia has "no government" invalidates what the Chadanese and the Ethiopians (our allies) have been trying to do through the AU.

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    Re: Somali pirates ask $7 million to free UK couple-report

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Nah, they can't even build a crappy one of those. If you want a crappy toaster, get one of those Chinese made ones over at Wal-Mart.
    I can't stand the politically correct. There's one life boat heading out to space because the world is going to explode. There is room for 100 people. Are we really looking for Somalis to continue the human race? I can see it now. "You are a medical engineer on the cusp of your profession but that guy is a Somali and he is just as important so get out of line."
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    Re: Somali pirates ask $7 million to free UK couple-report

    The British should refuse to negotiate and issue an ultimatum; if the couple isn't safely returned within X hours we will begin decimating your villages.

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    Re: Somali pirates ask $7 million to free UK couple-report

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I think the UK needs to call the US and borrow some Navy Seals to take these punks out.

    But, seriously, we know where they live. In Somalia. Each time Somali pirates take hostages, the UK, US, or whichever nation the hostages belong to should do the same. For each citizen they kill of ours, we should kill about 5,000 of theirs. I bet that would put the pirates out of business in short order, because whatever passes for the Somali government would then take us seriously, and decide to control their pirates.

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    Article is here.
    This sounds like an approach that TD would promote.
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    Re: Somali pirates ask $7 million to free UK couple-report

    Quote Originally Posted by GySgt View Post
    It is a coalition of tribes that agree that Somalia should have a future with the advancing world. Our attitude that Somalia has "no government" invalidates what the Chadanese and the Ethiopians (our allies) have been trying to do through the AU.
    Yeah I'm sorry if I define a government as having actual control over their country. In some form. With a standing army, air force & navy unless there is no need for a navy. One that isn't powerless beyond the boundaries of a few strongholds.

    There is no such thing as a 'Somali government'. That's what I saying. There is a couple of tribes who have a piece of land. That is it. Which is why we have pirates running the coasts of Somalia.

    As far as the Ethiopians go, last I heard they support the Islamic Courts and their international support for the 'Government' of Somalia is to save face.
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    Re: Somali pirates ask $7 million to free UK couple-report

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    This sounds like an approach that TD would promote.
    Nah. If the Somali pirates had an "R" after their names, TD would vote for them for president.
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    Re: Somali pirates ask $7 million to free UK couple-report

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Nah. If the Somali pirates had an "R" after their names, TD would vote for them for president.
    Uh, no I have to disagree with that.
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    Re: Somali pirates ask $7 million to free UK couple-report

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Yeah I'm sorry if I define a government as having actual control over their country. In some form. With a standing army, air force & navy unless there is no need for a navy. One that isn't powerless beyond the boundaries of a few strongholds.

    There is no such thing as a 'Somali government'. That's what I saying. There is a couple of tribes who have a piece of land. That is it. Which is why we have pirates running the coasts of Somalia.

    As far as the Ethiopians go, last I heard they support the Islamic Courts and their international support for the 'Government' of Somalia is to save face.
    I know what you are saying. But they have more of a sense of government now than in 1993. Today, the African Union is working with them, but they can only do so much. After all, it is Africa and nobody cares about Africa.

    Most of our allies do things to save face. Do you really think continental Europeans are in Afghanistan because they care? Why should Ethiopia be any different? Ethiopians support the "established" government because it receives favor from the African Union and from the U.S. It is also in their best interest because the breeding of Islamic fanaticism has threatened to cross into their borders for years. This is also why the Chadanese are involved.

    But unless Americans want us back in Somalia (for real this time), this is going to be the half-assed long lasting result.

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    Re: Somali pirates ask $7 million to free UK couple-report

    Hmm ... The Government doesn't even trade or negotiate with terrorists over our own soldiers. No way will they give a toss about a couple.


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