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    Re: Somali pirates ask $7 million to free UK couple-report

    I think that the fact that these desperate Somalis don't typically engage in torture and often take adequate care of their hostages and release them unharmed should count in their favor.
    I truly don't think they wish to harm anyone; they're starving.
    Perhaps we could do something to aid the situation in Somalia, although I don't know what. I'm sure it would have to involve toppling their current government so that any assistance we sent could actually reach the people.
    I believe the piracy would stop if the people had enough to live on.

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    Re: Somali pirates ask $7 million to free UK couple-report

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    I think that the fact that these desperate Somalis don't typically engage in torture and often take adequate care of their hostages and release them unharmed should count in their favor.
    I truly don't think they wish to harm anyone; they're starving.
    Perhaps we could do something to aid the situation in Somalia, although I don't know what. I'm sure it would have to involve toppling their current government so that any assistance we sent could actually reach the people.
    I believe the piracy would stop if the people had enough to live on.
    A .223 is much cheaper, & more effective.....
    I, for one, am tired of sending foreign aid anywhere while the b******* s*** on us.....
    Common criminals commiting felonies can & should be shot in the commission thereof....
    There is no way to justify piracy....
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    Re: Somali pirates ask $7 million to free UK couple-report

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    I think that the fact that these desperate Somalis don't typically engage in torture and often take adequate care of their hostages and release them unharmed should count in their favor.
    I truly don't think they wish to harm anyone; they're starving.
    Perhaps we could do something to aid the situation in Somalia, although I don't know what. I'm sure it would have to involve toppling their current government so that any assistance we sent could actually reach the people.
    I believe the piracy would stop if the people had enough to live on.
    I agree with everything that you said, but if they demand ransom for lives that they hold by the gun, they should be neutralized - with force.
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    Re: Somali pirates ask $7 million to free UK couple-report

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    I think that the fact that these desperate Somalis don't typically engage in torture and often take adequate care of their hostages and release them unharmed should count in their favor.
    They do this because they know that if they didn't, that would be the motivator necessary to get the rest of the world to take action and put an end to these shenanigans.

    I truly don't think they wish to harm anyone; they're starving.
    Perhaps we could do something to aid the situation in Somalia, although I don't know what. I'm sure it would have to involve toppling their current government so that any assistance we sent could actually reach the people.
    So what would you propose? Somalia makes Afghanistan look like Canada.

    I believe the piracy would stop if the people had enough to live on.
    If every person had equal rights, enough to live on, and a responsive and honest government, I bet you'd be right. As it stands, you've identified the main problem - there's absolutely no way to make it so that the people have enough to live on, because it's a failed state.
    People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.

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    Re: Somali pirates ask $7 million to free UK couple-report

    Quote Originally Posted by Coon County View Post
    Fair enough, Dan....
    As a boat owner & a sea lover, I can't excuse piracy on any level in these times......
    you pollute the sea as well.

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    Re: Somali pirates ask $7 million to free UK couple-report

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I think the UK needs to call the US and borrow some Navy Seals to take these punks out.
    nah, the just need to get me out of retirement, clic on picpadeswood 075.jpg

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    Re: Somali pirates ask $7 million to free UK couple-report

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    They are if the Somali government supports the terrorists by acts of omission. It becomes an act of war.
    Which somali government are we talking about here?

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    Re: Somali pirates ask $7 million to free UK couple-report

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnapostate View Post
    I can't run with those jingoist vibes. I can't claim that everyone's equal by a long shot, but there's no evidence that I'm aware of that U.S. citizens are more valuable than Somalis.
    Really? Is this Philosophy 101? Because last I checked U.S. citizens have contributed to the world's progress for hundreds of years. When's the last time a Somali went to the moon or invented a cure for anything? Which Somali car do you prefer? Maybe even a well built toaster?

    Now, I don't believe one human being has worth over another. But the political correct answer to life's unfortunate realities serves nothing other than a personal satisfaction that you are better than others. In the end...you are like everybody else and would gladly accept the slaughter of others for your safety.

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    Re: Somali pirates ask $7 million to free UK couple-report

    This is a mission for America. We owe the British our complete support because they have earned our friendship. The Pirates (who have a chain of command) should be given a certain amount of time before we begin devistating their bases (and we do know where enough of them are). The only reason they keep taking people ransom is because no one has made them pay for it yet.

    We do have a history of dealing with piracy. The Barbary Pirates wars in the Mediterranean is a glorious period for U.S. Marines and Sailors. We have nearly eradicated all piracy in U.S. waters and in the Caribbean Sea. Piracy in the Vietnam region was dealt with severly by local governments because America forced the issue. Since the end of the Cold War, local navies have declined in operation and piracy has produced position.

    People have this idea that piracy is something that really can't be dealt with - like everything else in the world, anything we do is doomed to fail. Well, people are stupid. The sooner we start obliterating our enemies (and piracy is a war-like act in historical terms) the sooner we can start not having to deal with what our band-aids keep creating.

    It's amazing how we can destroy a Nazi scourge, endure a nuclear Cold War against another Super Power, control the seas, and host the greatest technological advancement and advantage against our enemies the world has ever known.....but when it comes to an insurgent or a pirate, people seek to boast that we are inches from dropping to our knees.

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    Re: Somali pirates ask $7 million to free UK couple-report

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I think the UK needs to call the US and borrow some Navy Seals to take these punks out.

    But, seriously, we know where they live. In Somalia. Each time Somali pirates take hostages, the UK, US, or whichever nation the hostages belong to should do the same. For each citizen they kill of ours, we should kill about 5,000 of theirs. I bet that would put the pirates out of business in short order, because whatever passes for the Somali government would then take us seriously, and decide to control their pirates.

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    What Somali government?
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