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    Obama to end 22 year ban on HIV infected people entering the country

    The US is to end its 22-year ban on people with HIV entering the country, President Barack Obama has confirmed.

    Mr Obama made the announcement as he extended funding for an act that provides HIV/Aids related health care.

    "If we want to be the global leader in combating HIV/Aids, we need to act like it," Mr Obama said.

    The US is one of only about a dozen countries barring entry on HIV status. The ban is expected to be lifted at the beginning of 2010.

    'End the stigma'

    Mr Obama confirmed the move as he signed the Ryan White HIV/Aids Treatment Extension Act.

    Mr Obama said the entry ban had been "rooted in fear rather than fact".

    He said: "We lead the world when it comes to helping stem the Aids pandemic - yet we are one of only a dozen countries that still bar people with HIV from entering our own country.

    "On Monday, my administration will publish a final rule that eliminates the travel ban effective just after the New Year."

    Mr Obama added: "It will also take an effort to end the stigma that has stopped people from getting tested, that has stopped people from facing their own illness and that has sped the spread of this disease for far too long."

    The process to lift the ban had begun under the administration of George W Bush.
    The Ryan White Act is named after a 13-year-old boy who contracted the virus via blood transfusion and helped educate Americans about the disease until his death in 1990 aged 18.

    The act helps about 500,000 people, many on low incomes, by providing treatment and support.

    HIV was added in 1987 to the list of diseases disqualifying people from entering the US.

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    Obama to lift HIV/AIDS travel ban

    WASHINGTON, Oct. 30 (UPI) -- The ban on HIV/AIDS-infected visitors and immigrants entering the United States will be repealed after the New Year, President Barack Obama announced Friday.
    Good move. This ban, begun 22 years ago, was done out of ignorance, and I, for one, and glad to see common sense take over.

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    Re: Obama to lift HIV/AIDS travel ban

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Good move. This ban, begun 22 years ago, was done out of ignorance, and I, for one, and glad to see common sense take over.

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    I disagree. We shouldn't let those who have dangerous diseases into this country,especially if there is the chance that we will end up picking up the tab on his medical care/treatments.
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    Re: Obama to lift HIV/AIDS travel ban

    Common sense is a very uncommon commodity as they say and there used to rules to keep anyone with a transmittable disease out of the country, If we look back to Patient zero in the Aids story we come to a Gay French airline attendant. Or at least that was the story way back when. The rules would not have kept him out as no one knew he was infected or even that HIV/AIDs was around. In today's world the concern needs to be highly communicable diseases that if unleashed on the population here or anyplace in the world could spread death into the millions before you could get a handle on it. Ebola for example could be carried on a plane from anyplace and in a manner of hour be spread from one side of the world to another. It makes suicide bombing seem almost insignificant in comparison.
    I understand the Japanese are going to be using a device to detect people with a fever at a distance and restrict their travel by air. That seems like a great idea because it's not intrusive and could save millions of lives.
    AIDS is dangerous only to one person at a time and then only to stupid people who have unprotected sex with strangers. This ban was unenforceable any way. How many people with AIDS look sick or wear a sign saying "I have AIDS".

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    Re: Obama to lift HIV/AIDS travel ban

    The stupidity with this administration piles up so fast, you gotta have wings to stay above it.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Obama to lift HIV/AIDS travel ban

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The stupidity with this administration piles up so fast, you gotta have wings to stay above it.
    I take it you did not read Councilman's post.
    I now think a key word is "very".

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    Re: Obama to lift HIV/AIDS travel ban

    AIDS is already prevolent in America, a little to late to stop it from coming here.

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    Re: Obama to lift HIV/AIDS travel ban

    Quote Originally Posted by ScottD View Post
    AIDS is already prevolent in America, a little to late to stop it from coming here.
    What if this ban lift allows new strains to enter the country? What if there's an airborne strain lurking around somewhere and it comes, here?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Obama to end 22 year ban on HIV infected people entering the country

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I disagree. We shouldn't let those who have dangerous diseases into this country,especially if there is the chance that we will end up picking up the tab on his medical care/treatments.
    How did this ban do anything to stop them? Even if this would be a good proposal in theory, it was an abject failure in practice.

    Think about it - how on earth are they checking HIV status at the border? They're not. The only possible effect this law could have would be to keep responsible people who had a history of treatment or were otherwise honest from getting into the country. Those who refused to get treatment or lied would still be allowed in.

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    This ban was unenforceable any way. How many people with AIDS look sick or wear a sign saying "I have AIDS".
    Exactly.

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    What if this ban lift allows new strains to enter the country? What if there's an airborne strain lurking around somewhere and it comes, here?
    What if swine flu mutates with chicken pox and we all get really sick AND itchy?

    Again, how do you think anything will be different now than it was before? The old rule was absolutely ineffective - people with HIV have been entering freely for decades.
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    Re: Obama to end 22 year ban on HIV infected people entering the country

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    How did this ban do anything to stop them? Even if this would be a good proposal in theory, it was an abject failure in practice.
    It doesn't mean we should swing the door wide open for them. A medical exam should be required of anyone seeking entry into this country,maybe put a a doctor in our embassies and submit dna and blood samples to labs in our country and if those come up clean then they should be allowed a visa and if they do not come up clean for any dangerous diseases then to bad no entry for them. I do not expect it to stop everyone who has aids or some other dangerous disease from coming into this country, I just do not think the gate should be wide open just a because a few might be able to sneak through.

    Think about it - how on earth are they checking HIV status at the border?
    Which is why is support putting more border guards on the border and possibly militarizing it.
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