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    Re: Obama to lift HIV/AIDS travel ban

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    We didn't know about HIV/AIDS until it showed up in Western nations.
    And what does that have to do with my statement? If we were in 1980 when medical technology by modern standards was still in the dark ages yes, you would have a point and the possibility of the virus being airborne would be a concern. However this requires faith in A) hasn't already mutated in America and B) We would have no way of detecting an airborne version of AIDS for a while(highly unlikely).

    We live in an age where there are dozens of labs in almost every country dedicated almost exclusively to mapping new strains of EVERY decease we know of. You simply can't develop a new strain of any decease today and keep it a secret to most populations for too long. Just look at SARS or even Swine Flu. How long do you think it took between the appearance of any of these and it's detection? Weeks? Months? If AIDS were to become airborne by the time it did, it would have already A) been detected by scientists in the particular country or B) have found it's way to a country that would have the means to detect it.

    There are programs being run in Africa and pretty much every other country to detect the transfer of AIDS from parents to newborns, programs dedicated to finding out the rates of infected among children, new infection rates etc. Do you think if airborne AIDS were to show up tomorrow by the weeks end we wouldn't already have at least one case of somebody who didn't have AIDS on Saturday morning but did on Sunday night without any exchange of bodily fluids? The claim that we shouldn't let AIDS patients in because of the possibility of an airborne version of the virus simply has no real merit.

    It's not impossible that other strains exist, that we don't know if.
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    Re: Obama to end 22 year ban on HIV infected people entering the country

    If everybody started contracting AIDS without having sex, don't you think that'd cause a world-wide panic where almost every single person in a civilized country would know within hours or at the most days?

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    Re: Obama to end 22 year ban on HIV infected people entering the country

    Quote Originally Posted by Smoke[MaxX] View Post
    If everybody started contracting AIDS without having sex, don't you think that'd cause a world-wide panic where almost every single person in a civilized country would know within hours or at the most days?
    I can't even begin to imagine how quickly we'd find out about an airborne AIDS strain. I mean people catch AIDS now and know by what in 1980 would seem like seconds, there are literally hundreds of America and European teams and organizations both governmental and private in African testing millions JUST for that reason. Keeping such knowledge secret would be impossible for more then a few days tops.
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    Re: Obama to lift HIV/AIDS travel ban

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    We didn't know about HIV/AIDS until it showed up in Western nations. It's not impossible that other strains exist, that we don't know if.
    Which, if you knew anything about AIDS, could be brought in by anyone who has been exposed 3 weeks earlier and would not test positive. Some people might not test positive 2-3 months later. Maybe we need to have a rule that says you can only come into the US if you have not had sex within the last 3 months. Good enough for you?

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    Re: Obama to lift HIV/AIDS travel ban

    Quote Originally Posted by tjinta ibis View Post
    Which, if you knew anything about AIDS, could be brought in by anyone who has been exposed 3 weeks earlier and would not test positive. Some people might not test positive 2-3 months later. Maybe we need to have a rule that says you can only come into the US if you have not had sex within the last 3 months. Good enough for you?
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